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Deal on sex harassment claims in Congress forces lawmakers to pay out of their pockets
NBC ^ | 12/12/18 | Rebecca Shabad, Garrett Haake, Alex Moe and Leigh Ann Caldwell

Posted on 12/16/2018 6:41:51 AM PST by Baynative

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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Did you know that Vice president pence will not allow himself to be alone in a room with any female other than his wife.
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In todays ‘world’ probably a good idea to have an OPEN door policy - DON’T shut the door unless you are alone.

If the women can’t ‘accuse’ him, the men will start.

I would say one should put cameras in his office - even the ‘phony’ kind and inform have a sign posted stating possibility of session being recorded.

Paranoid? At one time I would have said yes, but now I think the meaning of Paranoid has to be revised.
(’they’ didn’t mind revising ‘gay’, stealing ‘blue state’ so a state of paranoia should just be called a state of FULL readiness.


21 posted on 12/16/2018 7:38:49 AM PST by xrmusn (6/98"Getting rich as a Politician means doing something illegal''(trunc) HS Truman)
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To: Baynative

every cent paid out should be repaid with interest, and all the names should be made public, even those of people who are no longer in office.


22 posted on 12/16/2018 7:42:07 AM PST by euram
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To: Polyxene

Yes, as Elaines Chinese friend stated - in reference to his fathers being blacklisted...

‘They named names’

These cockroaches have got to be exposed and forced to make restitution - forget the malarkey it was ‘ok’ then - we keep hearing slavery was ‘ok’ then, keeping your wife/girlfriend in line was ‘ok’ then, since it was an illegal motion put in place by themselves, full restitution PLUS interest should be taken from their plush retirement.

How do you think Gen Flynns Military Retirement will fare if he gets convicted/sentenced of felonies?


23 posted on 12/16/2018 7:43:44 AM PST by xrmusn (6/98"Getting rich as a Politician means doing something illegal''(trunc) HS Truman)
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To: Baynative

Even if they do away with it....they’ll bring it back once the furor dies down and nobody is paying attention.


24 posted on 12/16/2018 7:50:57 AM PST by xenia ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." George Orwell)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Did you know that Vice president pence will not allow himself to be alone in a room with any female other than his wife
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I had a young Mormon guy working for me a few years ago. He needed to go somewhere during the day and I was his ride so I said my wife can just come and get you and bring you there.

NOPE. He could not be alone with a married woman. EVER.


25 posted on 12/16/2018 7:57:16 AM PST by shelterguy
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To: Ken Regis; Polyxene
"I WANT TO SEE THE NAMES!!
I WANT A FULL ACCOUNT!"

I think this fund originated to pay out a ton of money to people involved in Barney Frank's gay prostitution ring that was run from his home and it's being quietly kept going to diffuse some strange stuff going on with Adam Schiff and Eric Swalwell out in California.

26 posted on 12/16/2018 7:59:08 AM PST by Baynative ("A man is not old until regrets take the place of dreams." - John Barrymore)
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To: Baynative

This ‘deal’ should be soundly rejected by the American People, unless and until we get a FULL accounting of the taxpayer funds that have been spent, to date, and on whose behalf the monies were tendered.

This notion that everything up to now remains hidden is simply a steaming pile of bovine excrement.


27 posted on 12/16/2018 8:10:55 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. Mr Trump, we've got your six.)
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To: Baynative

I call BS. This will go away as a rider to some large bill, just as Scott Brown embarrassed Congress into passing rules against insider trading which were quietly gutted soon afterwards.


28 posted on 12/16/2018 8:17:50 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine ( "It's always a party when you're eating the seed corn.")
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To: mplc51
Should be retroactive with names and the actual crime.

No. A lot of the cases presumably involve very gray area and "he said, she said" situations in which the promise of confidentiality significantly affected decision making on both sides. Would the "victim" have come forward with a sketchy claim if she (usually a she) had to do so publicly? Possibly not. Would Congressman X have settled to make an embarrassing mess go quietly away? Possibly not. Absent confidentiality, I think we will see fewer claims, and we will almost certainly see most Members stoutly dispute the charge.

Keith Ellison cases will be rare. Generally what we will see will be Member-staff or Member-lobbyist liaisons, often fueled by alcohol, in which repeated flirtations lead to sexual relations with professional entanglements. This happens in all kinds of organizations, not just on Capitol Hill. And sometimes people get vengeful post-breakup. Retroactively breaking a promise of confidentiality would be unfair.

29 posted on 12/16/2018 8:45:38 AM PST by sphinx
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To: JudyinCanada

Settlements/ awards by Fiscal Year
Fiscal Year No. of Settlements /Awards Total $ Amount

1997 6.... $39,429
1998 16... $103,180
1999 6.... $72,350
2000 15... $45,638
2001 7.... $121,400
2002 10... $3,974,077
2003 11... $720,071
2004 15... $388,209
2005 14... $909,872
2006 18... $849,529
2007 25... $4,053,274
2008 10... $875,317
2009 13... $831,360
2010 9.... $246,271
2011 16... $437,465
2012 12... $426,539
2013 14... $334,823
2014 11... $806,450
2015 13... $482,797
2016 15... $588,049
2017 8.... $934,754


30 posted on 12/16/2018 8:50:36 AM PST by caww
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To: Baynative

This sounds like a horrible deal for our congressmen.

An easy way for the enemy to remove someone in disfavor with ‘Ford’ type charges.

The Congressman/woman will need to run their own case. You can’t have the State ruining a case.

What were our morons thinking ?!?


31 posted on 12/16/2018 8:52:09 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: caww

Names. Dirty deeds. That’s the list I’d like to see. My guess is that the deal to pay for their own shenanigans is based on the names and deeds never to be released. Paging Laura Ingraham. She wasn’t going to stop digging until this was exposed.


32 posted on 12/16/2018 8:52:55 AM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: Chewbarkah
Another fraud from the political class. The bums in Congress never pay out of their own pocket.
Opportunistic Congress-bums will come up with other ways to get their hands on tax dollars.

Taxpayers must strictly prohibit these practices:
<><> Buying “sexual harassment” insurance policies; premiums paid by taxpayers as “office expenses.”
<><> Colluding with third parties (lobbyists, etc.) to pay the bills.
<><> tax-paid hush money disguised as bonuses to victims
<><> tax-paid severances to victims
<><> no-show jobs to silence victims
<><> tax-paid legal assistance to victims
<><> payouts from the Office of Compliance
<><> payouts from tax-paid office budgets

Plus all other forms of tax-paid bribery and tax-paid hush money.

33 posted on 12/16/2018 8:53:36 AM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Baynative

Though I’m sure some Republicans have dipped into this slush fund over the years, but let’s be real. If most of the payouts involved victims of GOP lawmakers, the Republicans’ names would have been leaked when word of this line-item first made the news last year......


34 posted on 12/16/2018 8:58:34 AM PST by caww
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To: sphinx
Retroactively breaking a promise of confidentiality would be unfair.

Yes, it could happen to a president even. Or a million other ordinary men who have to go through "he said-she said".

But not our holy congressmen because...um...explain to me again why not?

35 posted on 12/16/2018 9:10:18 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: mplc51

I hope Judicial Watch files an FOI request for a full accounting of the congressional “slush fund” complete with all names and amounts paid out.

I’d also like to see names of those who filed ‘false’ claims.


36 posted on 12/16/2018 9:12:05 AM PST by caww
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To: All
Keep in mind when the sitting president, Bill Clinton, was mired in the lewinsky sex mess, he thought nothing of
"letting the taxpayers pay."

Bill's intimate pal, Vernon Jordan, arranged a $40,000-per-year cushy government job for Lewinsky shortly
after she signed ......but before she filed...... a falsified affidavit saying she had NOT had sex with the president.

In case that didnt pan out, Clinton had another pal, his Ambassador to the United Nations, Bill Richardson,
personally visit Lewinsky at the Watergate to offer her a government job to shut her up.

They even went so far as to have Lewinsky give Linda Tripp instructions
coaching Linda on how to properly perjure herself in the Willey matter to save Clinton's ***.

Oops, I keep forgetting.......the perjury instructions "simply wrote themselves."

======================================

Hillary went hog wild with tax dollars-----she set up a what she called a "Bimbo Eruption team" in the West Wing
of the White House. The tax-paid office operated for eight long years.....and did nothing but shoot down, demean,
defame and lacerate any woman who dared surface about Bill's sexual activities.

37 posted on 12/16/2018 9:12:11 AM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Liz

Excellent list! I demand:
1) Immediate public disclosure of ALL past cases, accusations, agreements, & settlements.
2) Repayment by the perpetrators for every penny of public funds used spent paying damages and hush money to victims, and for the legal expenses/lawyers who represented the offenders.
3) Ethics hearings and where the evidence indicates guilt of serious sexual misconduct towards staff/others, expulsion of the offenders from Congress.


38 posted on 12/16/2018 9:16:58 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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To: Baynative

they can’t pay out of their own pocket. Their hands are in someone else’s pockets.


39 posted on 12/16/2018 9:35:02 AM PST by stylin19a (2016 - Best.Election.Of.All.Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever)
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To: Baynative

And shouldn’t they also be required to resign their post if they ever make such a payment, even if it’s their own money, since that’s what’s being demanded of Trump?


40 posted on 12/16/2018 9:35:33 AM PST by aquila48
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