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To: Kaslin

Off topic, but, I can’t wait to hear the wailing from the liberals, about the judge ruling Obamacare is unconstitutional, because they repealed the tax/penalty attached to Obamacare.

Remember that John Roberts’ upholding Obamacare was based on the penalty really being a tax. Now that this tax is gone, per Roberts’ own criteria, I would expect the Supreme Court could overrule their previous opinion.

This lower court ruling will eventually hit the Supreme Court for resolution.

I’m no attorney, but it seems persuasive. If Obamacare was originally upheld only because of the penalty/tax/compulsive payment, and that aspect of the law is gone, is the rest of it still constitutional?? We will find out.


11 posted on 12/15/2018 12:58:35 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Its unconstitutional minus the penalty.

If there’s no compulsion to buy the Obamacare insurance, the reason for propping it up has disappeared.

Time for the Rats fo go back to the drawing board.


14 posted on 12/15/2018 1:01:22 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“Now that this tax is gone, per Roberts’ own criteria, I would expect the Supreme Court could overrule their previous opinion.”

Roberts may have done himself in by mentioning that the commerce clause does not cover Obama care. The only thing that did was that he considered the penalty a tax

He won’t be able to go back and change his mind. And perhaps he doesn’t want to, I really don’t know. Wasn’t he the one that said that it wasn’t up to the courts to fix a bad law? I’m not sure if he was telegraphing that that’s what they wanted to do or not. But the fact that he was going to vote one way and then immediately changed his mind one day before the vote, makes me suspicious.


15 posted on 12/15/2018 1:04:07 PM PST by CottonBall (Thank you , Julian!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
If Obamacare was originally upheld only because of the penalty/tax/compulsive payment, and that aspect of the law is gone, is the rest of it still constitutional?

Congress didn't repeal the individual mandate. They merely reduced the penalty for non-compliance to zero. Any future congress can raise that penalty, which means the tax portion (and thus the constitutionality) of Obamacare remains.

This will be the position of the Supreme Court.

32 posted on 12/15/2018 2:21:11 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I’m no attorney either but I think I understand the English language fairly well and my reading of the constitution tells me that powers not granted to the federal government are reserved to the states or to the people. I see nothing anywhere in the constitution which authorizes the federal government to meddle in health care. Of course I don’t expect to ever see my opinion upheld by the court but I doubt that my opinion will change.


40 posted on 12/15/2018 7:49:06 PM PST by RipSawyer
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