Posted on 12/08/2018 2:26:02 PM PST by rktman
In reading about that there were four possibilities of where the attack would come and Pearl was just one of the four.
The Soviets DID spot the IJN during their Hawaii approach and they did radio that discovery back to Moscow.
The Soviets didn’t warn the US, but no one knows why.
I think it really was a surprise.
We suspected they might pull something like this but not exactly when.
Good article.
His kicking the Constitution to the curb for a fistful of programs and power grabs should be enough for him being in the Presidential hall of shame.
FDR did far more damage to the US than the Japanese it’s not even close.
One in three Americans believe America was too harsh with Japan by dropping A-Bombs to end the will of Japan to fight. There is always the one-third ready to condemn America and Americans first
They wanted us in the war to fight the Germans would be my guess.
November 27, day after Japanese fleet left for Pearl Harbor, message went out from War Department
Operative phrases = “Consider This message a war warning.
Execute appropriate defensive measures”
Kimmel and Short did neither .
Can you cite a source for that? Not challenging you, just wondering where you may have heard that.
I was visiting my parents at their nursing facility yesterday, and as a young nurse came by my father commented to her that it was the anniversary of the Pearl Harbor attack.
Her reaction: Whats Pearl Harbor?
That being said, I believe it was imperative for the US to enter the war. I can't imagine if Germany, Japan, & Italy had won, what the world would have looked like afterwards.
Stalin had lots of supporters in the FDR administration. It was important to get into the war to help Stalin.
After the Jap mini-sub was sunk, a call to battle stations might have been appropriate.
20 page doc from the US Naval War College:
Stalin clearly wanted the U.S. in the war.
Stalin did not trust anyone. He was given timely intelligence, several times during the war, that he could have used to great advantage. He was not told how it had been obtained, or that the Brits, with the help of the Poles, had cracked the German Army codes. He ignored them all.
With the broken code, his efforts to instigate war for years (theres a reason the Grier was used), and the movements/actions of that day, there is no way FDR didn’t know and want this event to take place.
They figured Hitler would declare war on us, and because Germany's spymaster in Japan was a double agent working for the Soviets, they knew what Hitler was unaware of a secret protocol between the Russians and the Japs that the Russkies would not attack Japan.
That was what was behind Hitler's "inexplicable" decision to declare war on us: he thought the Japs would open an Eastern front on the Soviet Union.
Wasn’t Teddy Roosevelt’s granddaughter put in charge of Red Cross and stationed in Los Angeles the day before - Dec.6th? I’m pretty sure that is on the record and she let’s slip she found it all too coincidental and believed there was foreknowledge.
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