Posted on 12/06/2018 2:44:12 PM PST by NYer
Plenty of oroof? Seriously? Unsubstiiated anextodsy starements does not prof make. Years and years of medical journal and research does. Additionally your so called proof including a statement by another poster that a patient could only move her toe suggests tjisnis not GBS as the hallmark of the disease is ascending paralysis. As for oook your vastly ignorant statements with conspiracy laden undertones does more to satisfy who is the look than I ever could. I refuse my previous statement. You have gone off the edge of the world. Perhaps you should allow trained professionals to speak for medicine.
Anyone who says anything you disagree with I s a Deep State agent hired by Obama?
I knew there was something wrong with you after reading your inane obviously uneducated opinions about a subject well described in public knowledge. Your response just proves to me that you are way too uneducated and stupid to have an intelligent conversation with. You must be a Qook.
The biggest cause of death from flu is pneumonia. I won’t get the flu shot because I generally have good resistance to the flu. However, this early spring, I made the mistake of acquiring the pneumonia shot. I got sick, and it took months to recover. I ended up in the hospital needing breathing treatments. One of my kids who works in a medical career insisted the shot had nothing to do with it, but I know how I felt before getting the shot, and how I began to feel within hours of getting the shot.
I watched my mother suffer for months after receiving the flu shot, so I begged her to please, just try it once. Don’t get the flu shot. She didn’t get the shot, and for the first time in years, she didn get sick for months on end. That convinced her. She never got another one.
In the mean time, the meds she needed during those sick months were damaging to her system, and eventually killed her.
I knew another woman who got GBS from a series of all at once shots which were required by her job. She was sick with that for a few years.
I have a nephew who was a healthy normal baby, till he got shots. He lost his ability to sit upright, and ended up with autism and other special needs.
I’ve personally seen too much, and experienced it myself, to trust immunizations.
Yes, illness can cause problems,, but most of the time we have medical treatments to overcome it such as IV’s for dehydration, cooling equipment for fevers that won’t let go, all kinds of things for difficulty breathing. Illnesses aren’t the death sentences they used to be. And often times, they come with hidden health benefits that save our lives later.
How many articles have appeared where childhood illnesses are used to cure cancer? And then of course, there is the lifetime immunity factor that is absent with shots.
There are people who have sensitivities to meds, and one doesn’t always know those sensitivities even exist until the med is consumed. Finally, sometimes those sensitivities run in families.
I’ll take my chances with the possibility of the illness than the unknown of immunizations. If I decide I want mercury poisoning, I’ll eat my share of fish.
It is generally hospital policy to mandate flu vaccines for staff and volunteers. You were not there in either capacity.
Don’t tell him we are conspiring on the deep state to confirm he is a complete idiot
Let the buyer beware.
Thernisol hasn’t been used in decades
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Not exactly correct-
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/vaccine/thimerosal.htm
AND:
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/thimerosal/index.html
Got mine about a month ago, been getting the Flu shot every year for the last 10 years.
10 minutes after the shot don’t even feel it.
Been getting the Pneumonia shot about every 3 years, you know the old saying, “PNEUMONIA IS THE OLD MANS FRIEND”.
Went through the Rabies series (7) shots, about 5 years ago (not a big deal), got bit by a rabid fox.
yes, and GB is more a risk of under cooked chicken than the flu shot..
My wife had a recall on thyroid medication, so we visited our doctor the other day...he told us that he gets nearly 50 recalls a day, all involving medications with ingredients made in China. First time I’ve ever heard him say that he’s absolutely “pissed off” with this China connection. He spends more time contacting patients about this stuff than seeing people who need attention. Of course taking poison medication needs attention!
Pharma-MD racket:
Shut up and take your Eff’ing vaccine you paranoid nutcase.
However -
1. From Harvard Piligrim Healthcare study
ahrq-vaers-report-2011.pdf
*Less that 1 % of vaccine adverse reactions are reported...
2. And -
US Pharmaceutic industry has been immune from vaccine injury lawsuits since 1986.
The US gov’t (Taxpayers) Vaccine Injury Fund has paid out over $4 BILLION dollars for vaccine injuries and deaths...
So do the math to get a clearer idea just how dangerous vaccines and the agressive US childhood immunization schedule can be.
Where is your healthcare ethics right to fully informed consent???
“Preliminary data were collected from June 2006 through October 2009 on 715,000 patients,
and 1.4 million doses (of 45 different vaccines) were given to 376,452 individuals. Of these
doses, 35,570 possible reactions (2.6 percent of vaccinations) were identified. This is an average
of 890 possible events, an average of 1.3 events per clinician, per month. These data were
presented at the 2009 AMIA conference.
In addition, ESP:VAERS investigators participated on a panel to explore the perspective of
clinicians, electronic health record (EHR) vendors, the pharmaceutical industry, and the FDA
towards systems that use proactive, automated adverse event reporting.
Adverse events from drugs and vaccines are common, but underreported. Although 25% of
ambulatory patients experience an adverse drug event, less than 0.3% of all adverse drug events
and 1-13% of serious events are reported to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA).
***-> Likewise, fewer than 1% of vaccine adverse events are reported. *<- Low reporting rates preclude or
slow the identification of “problem” drugs and vaccines that endanger public health. New
surveillance methods for drug and vaccine adverse effects are needed. Barriers to reporting
include a lack of clinician awareness, uncertainty about when and what to report, as well as the
burdens of reporting: reporting is not part of clinicians’ usual workflow, takes time, and is
duplicative. Proactive, spontaneous, automated adverse event reporting imbedded within EHRs
and other information systems has the potential to speed the identification of problems.”
I’m diabetic. What’s one more needle?
CC
yikes!
The senator died from septic shock. He had a bacterial infection, it got into his blood and he didn't seek treatment to get an aggressive antibiotic treatment to control the infection. Unless he got his flu shot with a needle fished out of a sewer, it wasn't the cause of his death.
the chances his infection being caused by the flu shot are so miniscule that if he instead were killed by being hit by a bus, it would take a smaller leap of faith to believe the flu shot made his skin magnetic and pulled the bus into him.
Uh oh, you’ve let the secret out.
Do you mind telling me what it was? The recall?
Yeah because it is every day that senators go into septic shock and die after getting a flu shot. Maybe he just got too close to a septic tank. I have some swamp land in Florida I would like to sell you.
Well said. Saw folk with GB in ICU back in the 80s even who came all the way back eventually. Don't recall having flu shots then except for swine. Any virus will do the trick.
And -
The Health Human Services has just admitted it has NEVER submitted vaccine safety reports for the last 29 years, contrary to US Congressional requirements.
#YourGovtCouldCareLess
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ucl66fayiglo9t5/ICAN-HHS-Stipulated-Order-July-2018.pdf?dl=0
“The 1986 Act granted unprecedented, economic immunity to pharmaceutical companies for injuries caused by their products and eviscerated economic incentive for them to manufacture safe vaccine products or improve the safety of existing vaccine products. Congress therefore charged the Secretary of HHS with the explicit responsibility to assure vaccine safety.
Hence, since 1986, HHS has had the primary and virtually sole responsibility to make and assure improvements in the licensing, manufacturing, adverse reaction reporting, research, safety and efficacy testing of vaccines in order to reduce the risk of adverse vaccine reactions. In order to assure HHS meets its vaccine safety obligations, Congress required as part of the 1986 Act that the Secretary of HHS submit a biennial reports to Congress detailing the improvements in vaccine safety made by HHS in the preceding two years.”
In an effort to gain access to these safety reports, ICAN filed a Freedom of Information Act request In August of 2017 to the HHS only to be blocked from receiving information for over eight months. Do to this delay, ICAN and Kennedy were forced to bring a lawsuit against HHS to provide copies of these reports to Congress or to admit that they never actually filed these reports.
“The result of the lawsuit is that HHS had to finally and shockingly admit that it never, not even once, submitted a single biennial report to Congress detailing the improvements in vaccine safety. This speaks volumes to the seriousness by which vaccine safety is treated at HHS and heightens the concern that HHS doesn’t have a clue as to the actual safety profile of the now 29 doses, and growing, of vaccines given by one year of age.”
I got a flu shot my Senior year in College, hoping to avoid it during the major parts of my graduation requirement. Well, the shot worked well: I got the flu.
Except for the first time that the swine flu was big and my employer pretty much forced everyone to get the shot, I’ve not had one since. And, being in my 60s now, I don’t plan to break my almost 40 year streak now or in the future.
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