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I think I lean more towards "ignorant". Since the history of these brutal regimes and where they came from are not generally taught in school any more, it's easy to see once again how easy it is for people to fall in to the "The government will take care of everything!" trap. Where the money comes from? Why the rich of course because they have an endless in-exhaustible supply of money made off the backs of the working man. Well, maybe stupid too. Not sure they would know what an agenda is.
1 posted on 12/05/2018 8:13:52 AM PST by rktman
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I use these two words a lot when discussing controversial issues:
1. Ignorant
2. Stupid

Ignorant is when you don’t know a thing. I’m ignorant of a lot of things.

Stupid is when you don’t know a thing you SHOULD know. A voter that doesn’t know anything about the person or issue they are voting for is a stooooopid voter. It’s really that simple.


2 posted on 12/05/2018 8:17:29 AM PST by cuban leaf
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If you voted for Obama, you are either ignorant or evil


3 posted on 12/05/2018 8:18:23 AM PST by Cold Heart
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Are Americans who admire the world's most brutal regimes miseducated or stupid? Or do they have some kind of devious agenda?

The answer to that is yes.

5 posted on 12/05/2018 8:24:41 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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I would like to relate this to people I meet these days who are really quote the conundrum, because they are both ‘stupid’ and ‘ignorant’ using your terms.

First of all, they are ignorant because they are very poorly informed. We harp on the MSM all the time here, but these people still think that CNN is a news network and that the nightly news anchors are Walter Cronkite. These “news” sources deliberately shield them from the kind of information that would awaken them to the real causes and sources of problems today.

However, they are stupid, because they want this. They choose to be shielded from the truth. They can’t handle it. Put on an alternative source of information that exposes what is really going on, and they get angry. They reject it. In some ways, they are informed, but they expel anything that challenges their socio-political cosmology.


7 posted on 12/05/2018 8:32:16 AM PST by z3n
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I’m not sure that’s mutually exclusive


10 posted on 12/05/2018 8:44:21 AM PST by NonValueAdded (#DeplorableMe #BitterClinger #HillNO! #cishet #MyPresident #MAGA #Winning #covfefe)
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1) Severely ignorant

2) Non existent critical reasoning skills coupled with no desire to learn and likely bereft of basic learning skills anyway. That’s a pretty good definition of stupid in my book.

The majority of kids can’t tell time with an analog clock and most HS grads read at what was a 6th or 7th grade level when I was that age.

I rest my case.


11 posted on 12/05/2018 8:45:25 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60's....You weren't really there)
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DISeducated.

That’d be deliberately planted misinformation - disinformation.

A distinction made by the Soviets.


13 posted on 12/05/2018 9:09:14 AM PST by fruser1
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Miseducated breeds stupidity a useful tool for the democrats guess why they want more illegals and turn public schools into snow flake baby sitters.


14 posted on 12/05/2018 9:40:58 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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When you are a utopianist and an atheist, then your only real option is to replace the God who will bring heavenly paradise with an all-powerful government who will bring earthly paradise.

Since those types are inevitably also “ends justify the means” believers, as they have dispensed with any basis for objective morality, then anything it takes to achieve that all-powerful government is justifiable in their eyes.

So all this misery goes back to the initial temptation in the Garden. First you give in to the temptation that you need not obey (or even believe in) God, then you give in to the temptation that you can make yourself (or your creations, such as government) take the place of God. They are not necessarily either miseducated, or stupid, but merely sinful, and a sinful mind naturally tends towards this type of thinking.


17 posted on 12/05/2018 11:07:18 AM PST by Boogieman
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There are a lot of ignorant people out there, but it isn’t all their fault.
I place the blame on miseducation and misinformation. Truth has been replaced with evil communist lies.


18 posted on 12/05/2018 2:11:49 PM PST by vpintheak (Freedom is not equality; and equality is not freedom!)
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FTA: When the tragedies of socialist regimes -- such as those in Venezuela, the USSR, China, Cuba and many others -- are pointed out to America's leftists, they hold up Sweden as their socialist role model. But they are absolutely wrong about Sweden. Johan Norberg points this out in his documentary "Sweden: Lessons for America?" Americans might be surprised to learn that Sweden's experiment with socialism was a relatively brief flirtation, lasting about 20 years and ending in disillusionment and reform. Reason magazine reports: "Sweden began rolling back government in the early 1990s, recapturing the entrepreneurial spirit that made it a wealthy country to begin with. High taxation and a generous array of government benefits are still around. But now it's also a nation of school vouchers, free trade, open immigration, light business regulation, and no minimum wage laws." School vouchers, light business regulation and no minimum wage laws are practices deeply offensive to America's leftists.

The Johan Norberg video on Swedish economics is available to see on YouTube. It is quite good. It shows that Sweden today is not really socialistic. In some ways, it is more free-market than America.

20 posted on 12/05/2018 2:23:08 PM PST by DeweyCA
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