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To: monkeyshine

you’re on a good track, imho, but all of these savages need to be repatriated, moved, relocated much further away and in isolation from (not bordering on) any other peoples or countries.


15 posted on 11/22/2018 3:38:13 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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To: faithhopecharity

The issues are so complex it almost seems impossible. There is so much that outside observers don’t even realize or know - especially all the anti-Israel agitators in the west.

Here is one example: the refugees. Gaza is already way overcrowded. Nobody is going to be moving into Gaza. As it stands, the only place they can settle is the West Bank. But, the West Bank residents include a large number of educated people, tradesmen, businesses, merchants, agriculture etc. Of course there are poor people and people with radical ideologies there, but for the most part it is kept under control. Now, ask those people if they want 1 million uneducated, unskilled people to suddenly move into their neighborhoods. The residents in the camps in Lebanon, for example, are deliberately denied access to education, jobs, training that ordinary Lebanese can obtain. They have been kept down.

So you want to talk about peace, and resolving all these issues - but the hard truth is the Palestinians are not really one people of one mind with one national aspiration. They are clannish people. Not saying that is necessarily a bad thing, it is what it is. But they don’t necessarily regard themselves as related to the people living in Lebanon or Jordan. And they sure as heck don’t want 1 million immigrants without skills, money or knowledge moving in. And there are way more than 1 million people claiming to be refugees.

So at the end of the day, who is really preventing peace? It’s the Palestinians. They have to find a way to resolve these issues for themselves. This is one of the major reasons why they can never get down to sign anything that even resembles a peace deal. They cannot sell it to their own people - not just because some of the radicals would prefer perpetual war, but because 1 million + people don’t want another million people showing up. So it serves their interests to do nothing, and to agitate foreigners to pressure Israel for nonsensical issues. They deflect their own internal problems into tangential complaints the types of which would be easily resolved if there were a sincere effort to make peace.

FWIW, there has always been a plan/idea floating around that a Palestinian state would lease a couple hundred square miles of land from Egypt in the Sinai, connected to Gaza, in order to develop housing and infrastructure to support a couple million new people (not to mention birth rate!).


19 posted on 11/22/2018 3:55:07 PM PST by monkeyshine
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