[oldbill]

More contributory than Boeing’s actions is that pilots being trained today are not taught basic airmanship and aerodynamic skills.

You can fly an airplane quite well with all the magic turned off, without basic instruments like airspeed.

But the emphasis now is on automation. Like the Air France crash over the South Atlantic, these pilots had no clue on how to handle the problem when the magic failed, and crashed a perfectly good flying airplane into the sea.

Most of these new hires have never been above 30 degrees of pitch or 60 degrees of bank, and panic when there is an upset or stall.

And it’s getting worse.

[Moonman62]

Yep. Airbus designs their planes to be flown by pilots with very little experience.

[SamAdams76]

I see this over-reliance on technology in a lot of areas of life. A few days ago, we had an unexpected snow storm in the NYC area and traffic was snarled for hours. All the politicians got blamed of course but the real reason was that there were hundreds of wrecks due to people just not knowing how to drive in snow. During my 5 1/2 hour commute, I never saw so many wrecks in my life.

Nearly 100% of them caused by people not knowing how to drive in snow and thinking that because they have all-wheel drive, stability control, and other features in their $30,000+ car, that they are invulnerable and can continue driving as normal.

Saw a lot of these high-performance cars in ditches.

[yoe]

"Most of these new hires have never been above 30 degrees of pitch or 60 degrees of bank, and panic when there is an upset or stall.

And it’s getting worse.

I woulden't have open heart surgery preformed by a new-be surgeon....I want the one who has miles and miles and miles of open-heart surgery AND I want the same thing in my pilot AND his crew. Don't charge me a fortune then put me on a plane with a half-baked pilot at the yoke......

[Nifster]

This. Exactly. They figure the computer does all the flying so they don’t need any real expertise