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To: joegoeny

Okay about flags:
The US Flag, is really important to citizens of the US, it symbolizes the contract the people have with each other and with our government. So burning the US flag is not just an attack on the US government it is also an attack on the people of the US. Strike one against the rabble.
Second if you are coming to us to immigrate you better damn well have US flags flying. If you want to keep the Honduran immigres together you can fly it under the us flag or next to it(the US flags left). Second strike.
Third if you are fleeing your home country and not fighting to fix it you are viewed as cowards running away from a fight. Third strike.
Fourth, If you are bringing families out of harms way it is the first country you flee to (ie. Mexico) that you ask for asylum. Mexico offered it but these invaders turned it down. Fourth strike.
In baseball its three strikes and your out...need I say more?
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Okay, perhaps a couple things do need be said.

I am personally not in favor of this caravan nor any illegal immigration. I want to make that clear first.

Your “first strike”: It seems everywhere in the world except the United States, the flag-burning episode is recognized for what it was. That photo of the idiots burning a US flag was not in nor was ever a part of this “caravan”. This was done by a crowd of Mel Zelaya’s Libre goons back in April, if I recall correctly. Can you see the red and yellow Libre flag? Or the red and white bandanas? These you DON’T want entering the US for they will make Antifa look like choirboys. And a few Libres are undoubtedly in the caravan, but this photo is not them!

Second strike: I have no argument with your statement.

Third strike: I pretty much agree, but there are a lot of people here duped into doing things on a spur of the moment, no different from the hordes duped within the US. How to you think the Democrats get nearly half the voting population to go along with their garbage? Those here fall for the same commie line.

Fourth strike: Asylum is different from “refugee status” according to the UN Protocol. Anyone anywhere in the world can ask for asylum status, not merely in the first country entered. It is different from refugee status which does not apply in this case.

My only disagreements are with “strikes” one and four. That photo has been passed around the internet for so long it has achieved a status of truth, which it is not. The other one, number four, just needs a little more research.


50 posted on 11/19/2018 8:06:16 AM PST by Gideon300
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To: Gideon300

Okay about flags:
The US Flag, is really important to citizens of the US, it symbolizes the contract the people have with each other and with our government. So burning the US flag is not just an attack on the US government it is also an attack on the people of the US. Strike one against the rabble.
Second if you are coming to us to immigrate you better damn well have US flags flying. If you want to keep the Honduran immigres together you can fly it under the us flag or next to it(the US flags left). Second strike.
Third if you are fleeing your home country and not fighting to fix it you are viewed as cowards running away from a fight. Third strike.
Fourth, If you are bringing families out of harms way it is the first country you flee to (ie. Mexico) that you ask for asylum. Mexico offered it but these invaders turned it down. Fourth strike.
In baseball its three strikes and your out...need I say more?
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Okay, perhaps a couple things do need be said.

I am personally not in favor of this caravan nor any illegal immigration. I want to make that clear first.

Your “first strike”: It seems everywhere in the world except the United States, the flag-burning episode is recognized for what it was. That photo of the idiots burning a US flag was not in nor was ever a part of this “caravan”. This was done by a crowd of Mel Zelaya’s Libre goons back in April, if I recall correctly. Can you see the red and yellow Libre flag? Or the red and white bandanas? These you DON’T want entering the US for they will make Antifa look like choirboys. And a few Libres are undoubtedly in the caravan, but this photo is not them!

Second strike: I have no argument with your statement.

Third strike: I pretty much agree, but there are a lot of people here duped into doing things on a spur of the moment, no different from the hordes duped within the US. How to you think the Democrats get nearly half the voting population to go along with their garbage? Those here fall for the same commie line.

Fourth strike: Asylum is different from “refugee status” according to the UN Protocol. Anyone anywhere in the world can ask for asylum status, not merely in the first country entered. It is different from refugee status which does not apply in this case.

My only disagreements are with “strikes” one and four. That photo has been passed around the internet for so long it has achieved a status of truth, which it is not. The other one, number four, just needs a little more research.
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I have to appreciate the thought you put into your reply to my comment. In a way it is flattering because my comment provoked you to put thought to keyboard.
It is gratifying that items 2 and 3 we are largely in agreement on. I understand your point regarding item 1 that this event was not directly related to the current invasion coming at us through Mexico. Also we do have an obligation to be accurate unlike the Lame Stream Media. However as you say these people that committed this act are probably imbedded in this horde heading North. Have the leadership of the “Caravan” distanced themselves from this act or policed themselves to remove Criminal and Extreme political operators and activists? No? I don’t believe that we should treat these invaders with kid gloves, unless they repudiate these elements and remove them from their group they should be clothed with the extremist actions. Sorry.
Item 4 I will give a little more leeway as I am not an attorney on International Law. However my understanding is that most of these people are economically motivated and are not under threat of immediate harm in their home countries. My position is that they have home countries and if they motivated themselves to come here they can motivate themselves to reform their home country to make them better places to live. The gravy train has got to stop.


53 posted on 11/21/2018 7:01:29 AM PST by joegoeny ("Nuts!")
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