Skip to comments.‘You should have died in the Holocaust’: Neo-Nazi harassment is not free speech, judge rules
Posted on 11/17/2018 3:00:42 PM PST by NRx
One emailer wrote: You are a disgusting, vile Jew This is OUR country: youre merely living here (for now).
A caller said: You should have died in the Holocaust with the rest of your people.
But the calls that most disturbed Tanya Gersh consisted only of the sound of gunshots being fired.
The terror campaign known as a troll storm was the result of Daily Stormer publisher Andrew Anglins December 2016 directive, urging hundreds of thousands of readers to harass the Jewish woman and her family, according to court filings.
Gersh sued the known neo-Nazi. On Wednesday, a Montana federal judge denied Anglins motion to dismiss the case, holding that speech in encouraging anti-Semitic harassment was not entitled to First Amendment protection.
The Montana mother found herself in Anglins crosshairs in late 2016, after Richard Spencer, a household name in the alt-right movement, gained notoriety when a video of him shouting Hail Trump! at a conference of nearly 300 white nationalists and the Nazi salutes it elicited went viral.
Spencers mother, Sherry Spencer, owned a ski home in the otherwise idyllic town of Whitefish, Mont. After facing local protests related to her sons views, she reached out to Gersh, who in 2016 worked as a real estate agent, about selling the property.
Subsequently, court filings allege, Sherry Spencer decided not to sell. Months later, she published a blog post on Medium, accusing Gersh of extortion, threats and denouncing her sons views.
The next day, Anglin called his own readers to action.
Are yall ready for an old fashioned Troll Storm? Anglin wrote in a Dec. 16, 2016, post on the Daily Stormer website...
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
terrorizing and threatening a person is not “free speech”
One of the reasons we're dealing with the wave of de-platforming on virtually every segment of the Internet-which has bled into meat space-is because no one stood up for Andrew Anglin's right to free speech, aside from Tucker Carlson, when he was under legal assault.
You can't preserve freedom of expression and freedom of association if you carve out exceptions for speech that you feel is vile or offensive.
Let us see the court hold the same for a trophy hunter who did nothing wrong.
You’re drinking Wapo’s koolaid.
The Daily Stormer’s crime consisted of putting a public person’s name on the site (she was leading the protests against zspencer’s mother while trying to force her into selling their business and donating the money to her select people) and inviting people to give her their opinion while specifically warning against sending threats.
The threat to us is that if we urge people to contact our senator’s and a judge rules we are extremists, we will be held liable because a far leftist decides to claim that she received threats as a result without evidence whatsoever.
Ok. So we can shut down the Nation of Islam?
” On Wednesday, a Montana federal judge denied Anglins motion to dismiss the case, holding that speech in encouraging anti-Semitic harassment was not entitled to First Amendment protection.”
Inciting violence, and threats is not free speech. The judge got it right. This in no interferes with Anglin’s right to express his political views, it only prevents him from trying to destroy someone’s life.
Yup, Daily Stormer was the test case. After Charlottesville—where ANTIFA, who had no permits to be there, were deliberately pushed by police into the Unite the Right marchers for the clear purpose of creating violence—the order came down to push the Daily Stormer off the internet.
We looked the other way because they were “just a Nazi site.”
Today its Life site news, a mainstream conservative publication getting kicked off their registrar. Tomorrow they’ll be taking our ability to process payments on FR.
Read your cases again kiddo. Can you commit an assault over the phone?
The only thing they can get you for is if you’re outside the house burning the cross and urging an imminent attack.
Spencer is rather heavily rumored to be controlled opposition, financed by the same guy who finances the Democrats.
It has nothing to do with speech - Eric Swalwell just threatened and harassed a class of people - I dont see judges or even the government demanding he step down, be blocked on the internet or be sued into oblivion.
Ergo - harassment as free speech is OK so long as youre saying the right things?
Dont fall for the socialist brainwashing - what daily stormer did is what all socialists and antifa AND LGBTQ AND DEMOCRATS have been doing with impunity and legal approval for years. They just dont want anybody opposing their ideas to do it.
Unless its a clear threat of violence with the immediate means to carry it out its protected Free Speech.
There is no such thing as hate speech. Thats a liberal fiction.
Once you start agreeing to limit speech, anything offensive to a leftist will be banned.
Just like gun rights. Dont give them an inch.
Yeah, it's funny how uninterested the mediots are in his background as an obama loving Occupy Wall Street 'tard. He's a total cutout, and and won't be surprised if he's got a direct line to Soros.
A Jewish nazi collaborator pretending not to be a nazi, funding a commie who is pretending to be a nazi. Strange times we live in.
Does the same judgement apply to democrats, celebrities, media and so-called educators calling for harassment and violence toward conservatives and republicans? That was a rhetorical questions to which we all know the answer.
This is exactly correct. Doxxing is a regular practice by leftists and they do it with impunity. Doxxing and deplatforming are the pincers that have been crippling all dissent.
This is not a good verdict.
‘Free speech’ was intended to allow unfettered criticism of the government, right up to the point of advocating violence. Many other kinds of speech may be and are prohibited. The idea that the original intent of the Founders was that pornography or ‘fighting words’ were covered by ‘freedom of speech’ is beyond ignorant.
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