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Dems seek to overhaul voting rules in Florida legal fight (Unbelievable)
The Hill ^ | 11/16/18 | Max Greenwood

Posted on 11/16/2018 7:13:36 PM PST by yesthatjallen

Democrats see a series of lawsuits in Florida’s bitter recount fight between Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.) and Gov. Rick Scott (R) as an opportunity to achieve a years-long goal: reshaping how ballots are evaluated and counted in the nation’s largest swing state in 2020 and beyond.

While most of the lawsuits are centered around the recount, some Democrats see the effort as a chance to change some of the standards governing how ballots are assessed in the Sunshine State, potentially widening the pool of countable votes.

That could carry implications for future elections by forcing local and state officials to tally votes they otherwise would invalidate under current standards – an outcome they hope will improve their electoral chances in a must-win state known for its unpredictable politics.

“A lot of these lawsuits might not even be primarily motivated by the Senate race. If you look across the board, it looks very unlikely that there are even enough ballots at play,” said Michael Morley, an assistant professor at the Florida State University College of Law.

“Even if Sen. Nelson were to run the table and win all the lawsuits, I don’t think there are enough ballots here to change the outcome,” he added. “I think a lot of this is clearing the underbrush for the 2020 election.”

To be sure, Democrats still see a win by Nelson as necessary in their bid to limit Republican gains in the Senate ahead of 2020, when the GOP is expected to face a less favorable electoral map.

Scott currently leads Nelson by only 0.15 percentage points after a machine recount, throwing the race into a manual recount that must be completed by Sunday.

But multiple Democrats privately acknowledged the three-term incumbent likely faces long odds in toppling Scott in the final recount.

The lawsuits filed by Nelson and his allies, however, could have implications beyond the 2018 contest.

Most of the litigation pursued by Democrats seeks to include tens of thousands of ballots that risk being rejected under Florida's existing standards and procedures.

So far, the lawsuits have seen limited success in court.

U.S. District Judge Mark Walker, who’s overseeing most of the cases, sided in part with attorneys for Nelson and the Democratic Executive Committee of Florida on Thursday, granting some voters who had their mail-in or provisional ballots rejected because of mismatched signatures an additional two days to fix the errors.

But he stopped short of granting Democrats’ broader request to invalidate Florida’s signature-matching requirement and order that all ballots with mismatched signatures be tallied.

The most prominent is a Democratic suit that seeks to invalidate Florida's current rules requiring an exact match of the signature in the ballot.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: democrats; election; florida; fraud
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Instead of tightening regulations, Democrats want to lower the standards and allow 'countable votes'.
1 posted on 11/16/2018 7:13:36 PM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

Time for the GOP to push back and only allow voting on ELECTION DAY. No more mail in ballots.


2 posted on 11/16/2018 7:20:44 PM PST by Skywise
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To: yesthatjallen

Why aren’t any republicans, along with the GOP, fighting back like this in any of the close elections? We should be trying to steal elections just like they are if they refuse to play by the rules. I’m completely serious. If we aren’t going to do anything to stop fraud, we might as well start trying to steal elections away from democrats more aggressively.


3 posted on 11/16/2018 7:22:40 PM PST by LeeClementineKenny (STOP ELECTION FRAUD!!! - TRUMP 2020!!! - MAGA!!! - www.DonaldJTrump.com)
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To: LeeClementineKenny

Elections are how we solve our differences civilly.

Elections are now corrupt, and the results are suspect.

I wonder how we will solve differences among ourselves when elections are no longer a thing, because that is where we are going very quickly.


4 posted on 11/16/2018 7:27:05 PM PST by chris37
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To: chris37

It’s called make the rules as you go along. More fun that way.


5 posted on 11/16/2018 7:28:46 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Florida will still have a Republican Governor and heavily Republican legislature. I hope they use their resources to clean up this mess so the Democrats are unable to steal any more elections.


6 posted on 11/16/2018 7:30:38 PM PST by Midwesterner53
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To: LeeClementineKenny

They aren’t fighting back, they aren’t challenging, because they are “one” with the Dems, and serve the same global masters.

Dems + Reps = Swampsters who serve the Globals

vs.

Trump + Deplorables

(Globals are winning.)


7 posted on 11/16/2018 7:33:26 PM PST by Kalamata (How to interpret The Revelation: http://bibleresearchtools.com/bible-study-video-series/)
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To: LeeClementineKenny

They aren’t fighting back, they aren’t challenging, because they are “one” with the Dems, and serve the same global masters.

Dems + Reps = Swampsters who serve the Globals

vs.

Trump + Deplorables

(Globals are winning.)


8 posted on 11/16/2018 7:33:26 PM PST by Kalamata (How to interpret The Revelation: http://bibleresearchtools.com/bible-study-video-series/)
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To: yesthatjallen

And you find that unbelievable? How else are they supposed to win elections? 8>)


9 posted on 11/16/2018 7:35:15 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Kalamata

Well they actually did fight back in Florida. Perhaps it will become an inspiration to Republicans in other states, but the odds are probably slim.


10 posted on 11/16/2018 7:36:58 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: yesthatjallen
Challenge this up to the USSC.
We have two years to fix our electoral system or it’s over.
Non Citizens voting in our elections is a point of contention worth the shedding of blood.
11 posted on 11/16/2018 7:40:15 PM PST by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope.,)
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To: yesthatjallen
We just gotta find more stupid Republicans that don't know their birthday, cant write in cursive, and who vote from beyond the grave. Having 36 doppelgangers like the dummy who left a ballot box at Avis Renta Car is another desireable trait
12 posted on 11/16/2018 7:40:48 PM PST by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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To: LeeClementineKenny
The only problem with that is, voter fraud is really only possible in big cities, and they are all controlled by Democrats. Just like all of the dead people are controlled by Democrats.
13 posted on 11/16/2018 7:45:26 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: yesthatjallen

Eliminate mail in ballots. Require absentee ballots have strict standards. All voting occurs on one day. People meet the requirements or they don’t vote. Develop an honest agency to administer elections. Eliminate judicial review. This should work well enough.


14 posted on 11/16/2018 7:50:01 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: yesthatjallen

Every day the dems give real Americans a reason to take up their pitchforks against them.

Every day it gets worse. If only there were a cure for their mental disease they wouldn’t need to be “poked”.


15 posted on 11/16/2018 7:51:47 PM PST by Boomer (The only good leftists are those who have 'left us' for another country)
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To: Nuc 1.1
Every rule and standard has been chipped away.

We need national basic standards and guidelines.

If this continues there's no hope for fair, honest, and credible elections.

16 posted on 11/16/2018 7:59:27 PM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

Should it come as no surprise that provisional ballots came into being after the Bush/Gore fight in 2000?


17 posted on 11/16/2018 8:09:43 PM PST by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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To: Skywise

No more of this early voting crap, either.


18 posted on 11/16/2018 8:22:48 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (Hey liberals! Trump in 2020. Because, 'eff you!)
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To: yesthatjallen

In other words, include moron votes and non-citizen votes.


19 posted on 11/16/2018 8:45:11 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks ( The US Constitution ....... Invented by geniuses and God .... Administered by morons ......)
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To: Robert DeLong

Everybody’s known about Broward corruption for decades. When Florida had Republican governors and Republican legislatures, why didn’t they go in and clean them out? Because they are ALL feed at the same trough.

Same goes for other states, example, Pennsylvania. There were Republican governors and legislatures, yet Phila and Pittsburgh get away with reporting more votes than people who live there, and it never gets investigated let alone cleaned up. That is not unintentional.

It’s all a sick joke, has been for decades, and will continue to be, until the People have had enough, and take it back. Or, onward to hard tyranny.


20 posted on 11/16/2018 9:35:53 PM PST by Kalamata (How to interpret The Revelation: http://bibleresearchtools.com/bible-study-video-series/)
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