Posted on 11/08/2018 6:58:16 AM PST by nuconvert
Ian Long, 29, opened fire at Borderline Bar and Grill in Thousand Oaks, Southern California, at 11.20pm
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I’m sure the kid knows much more about firearms than me.
BTW I loved “The Outlaw Josie Wells” and his guns.
I remember as a young person spending one summer with my Grandma during the late 70s. My Uncle who was an Army foot soldier in the Viet Nam war was just home the war and living there too with his mother, my Grandma. One night a helicopter flew over the house and my Uncle started screaming and yelling from under his bed in his bedroom. I ran into my Grandma’s bedroom and asked her what was wrong with my Uncle and why was he screaming and yelling. My Grandma said to me whatever you do, do not go into his bedroom. That night scared the heck of me and I still remember it clearly to this day.
I was *not* mobilized to a combat area of operations, but...! I was in a combat MOS in the Army National Guard. Our initial training was extensive, rough and under total control. We were desensitized to explosions, because we were subjected to fire-and-maneuver courses of various kinds, which included quite a bit of simulated artillery, grenade simulators, etc. There were also demo ranges and several different kinds of firing ranges. Rifles are often fired near me these days (rural area), so the noise often comes as a surprise. But I still don’t flinch as much as the lifelong civilians around me.
The hardest thing for most men (most by far) trained as combat soldiers would be a long time away from home. I can say that for sure *without* ever having been mobilized anywhere for a long time.
So exceptions would be few. But I also know a soldier who had my MOS (12B) and suffered a head injury (IED). He’s very stable and dependable. I am completely safe spending time with him, including firing, as anyone would be. But he was affected and impaired in other, more physical ways (physical injuries). It bugs me that they gave him the PTSD label, because he’s very sane and strong that way.
As for PTSD, most likely, more civilians have difficulties with that in a mental way than prior servicemen. People who’ve lived in rough neighborhoods or any of many other kinds of circumstances that required much awareness to dangers need to get over losing sleep and the like after being removed from dangerous circumstances. And routinely looking behind doors might be labeled as being obsessive/compulsive, but I disagree. As long as a person stays relatively healthy,...
I’ve had some dangerous occupations, duties and other living conditions for long periods of time, but most of us get over thinking too much about anything that supplies excessive adrenaline after getting away from those situations. We just focus on the good things and avoid thoughts of danger and excitement. And PTSD doesn’t necessarily make someone dangerous to innocent people around them.
Shoot. Even most schizophrenics are safer than sane people on average. I often chat with one (a neighbor) when going for walks. He’s harmless, even without meds. ...and has some of the most interesting things to say. ;-D
Here’s the award. You’ll see the medal for the same award. Scroll down a little for an image of the ribbon that most service members wear with their more common dress uniforms (”class A” uniforms for us). The medals go on a fancier dress uniform (e.g., dress blues for Army).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Service_Medal
Is that what was in the photo, or was it something else?
As a young teen aged girl who had a pretty sheltered life, it was an eye opener.
After that night, I would never be able to look at my Uncle in the same way.
That’s understandable. There are, no doubt, people who come home from being mobilized, who don’t leave fears or reactions to deadly threats behind.
Different people deal with difficult situations in different ways. Most of the combat veterans I’ve known (many) tended to talk and think about funny situations that happened when they were in the service. Many of them even found humor in terrible situations of the past.
There was one friend of mine who did a tour with many firefights on combat patrols and ambush patrols in Vietnam as an infantryman. He talked about the most morbid details of those fights: really gory, nasty stuff. But he was fine. Others who did the same kinds of tours or similar tours told me about combat experiences without such morbid details, but they talked about those experiences. There was a man in the motor pool platoon of my Guard unit, who had done a tour as an infantry soldier in Viet Nam. Another was a combat engineer who did three tours, the last two in admin. duties (nice, he was single back then). Two others were combat medics in Viet Nam (many patrols), and they were attached to my unit during field training exercises. They were super cool.
Most of the veterans with long overseas tours for hazardous duty realized that they weren’t in danger any more. They were chatting with someone on a nice day. The past was past.
Stereotypes about men and women who’ve been through dangerous times overseas are common from the big media companies, but there are many different kinds of people out there. Most of them adjust and move on. The same applies to most former bouncers who worked in large, country dance hall type night clubs in redneck areas, police, medical workers, people who lived in rough neighborhoods for years,...
We who live in civilized societies now are really not living as naturally as generations long before us. We’re sheltered from seeing the many terrible incidents (e.g., vehicle accidents) and the inevitable end of all who are around us. Sorry, if that creeps you out. But it’s true. Most people in our contemporary society don’t even see animals as they really are. Most see animals as the human-like characters portrayed in the media.
Human beings reason and think about the future, and at best, don’t dwell much on thoughts of negative events of the past. Animals think about the here and now and don’t need to reason.
It’s a combination including gang stalking. They have had this figured out for quite awhile now. A lot of tax dollars went into development over the years.
“In the good old days it was against Navy regulations to have a tattoo.”
Then the “good old days” must have been before the mid-1950s. I grew up in the Norfolk, VA area. Boush St., and downtown Norfolk in general, was full of tattoo parlors that catered primarily to sailors and Marines.
Not so sure. There were a number of false posts right afterward including photos of a different guy
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