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Migrants to rest, hope to win mass transport to Mexico City
WRALTV - AP ^ | 10/31/18 | RODRIGO ABD and REBECCA BLACKWELL, Associated Press

Posted on 10/30/2018 9:58:30 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt

JUCHITAN, Mexico — Thousands of Central American migrants in a caravan traveling through Mexico planned to rest at least a day or longer in the southern city of Juchitan beginning Wednesday, hoping to organize mass transport northward after days of hard walking in tropical temperatures that have left them about 900 miles from the nearest U.S. border crossing.

A second group, of 1,000 or so migrants who forced their way into Mexico on Monday, was trailing some 250 miles back, stopping for the night in the city of Tapachula.

At a Tuesday evening assembly, participants in the bigger group named a committee to negotiate with Mexican authorities over a possible "bridge plan" that could leapfrog them to the Mexico's capital by bus. There was no indication from officials whether the request to transport the perhaps 4,000 people remaining in the group would be granted.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: braking; caravan; immigration; mexico; migrants; transport
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Starting out in Honduras more than two weeks ago, the caravan migrants have spent their nights camping out in the main squares of small cities in the southern states of Chiapas and now Oaxaca. But a deadly earthquake last year destroyed Juchitan's central market, prompting it to be provisionally moved to the main square — meaning there was no room for the migrants.

Instead they spent the night on a municipal-owned lot on the outskirts of town where a high ceiling sheltered a cement floor. Outside the structure many bedded down on blankets or cardboard sheets in the grass, with some lashing tarps to the foliage for rudimentary shelter....

1 posted on 10/30/2018 9:58:30 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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This from the article:

The two groups combined represent just a few days’ worth of the average flow of migrants to the United States. Similar caravans have occurred regularly over the years, passing largely unnoticed, but the new ones have become a hot-button political issue amid an unprecedented pushback from U.S. President Donald Trump.

With just a week to U.S. midterm elections, the Pentagon has announced it will deploy 5,200 troops to the Southwest border, and Trump has continued to tweet and speak about the migrants. On Monday he said he wants to build tent cities to house asylum seekers, and Tuesday he floated the possibility of ending the constitutional right to U.S. citizenship for babies born in the country to noncitizens. Experts widely dismissed the idea that the president could unilaterally change the rules on who is a citizen and said it’s highly questionable whether an act of Congress could do it, either.

“According to what they say, we are not going to be very welcome at the border,” Honduran migrant Levin Guillen said when asked about Trump. “But we are going to try.”


2 posted on 10/30/2018 10:03:17 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

Go home, apply and wait your turn.


3 posted on 10/30/2018 10:25:36 PM PDT by Kozy (new age haruspex; "Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth.")
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

So a day to organize mass transit, and another day to reach the border. Just in time for the weekend propaganda circuit to show soldiers facing off against women and children.


4 posted on 10/30/2018 10:26:58 PM PDT by TennesseeProfessor
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intermediate locations, distances, rates, times

start: san pedro sula, oct. 13
current location: juchitan, oct. 30

distances:

san pedro sula to aguas calientes: 288 km = 179 mi
aguas calientes to rio hondo: 99 km = 63 mi
rio hondo to tapachula: 433 km = 269 mi
tapachula to arriaga: 246 km = 153 mi
arriaga to oaxaca: 431 km = 268 mi
oaxaca to mexico city: 460 km = 286 mi
mexico city to hermosillo: 1919 km = 1192 mi
hermosillo to tijuana: 875 km = 544 mi

san pedro sula to tijuana: 4751 km = 2952 mi

san pedro sula to arriaga: 1066 km = 662 mi

arriaga to tijuana: 3685 km = 2290 mi

arriaga to current location (juchitan): 151 km = 94 mi

distance from san pedro sula to current location:

179 mi + 63 mi + 269 mi + 153 mi + 94 mi = 758 mi

fraction covered = 758 mi / 2952 mi = 0.26

time to current location:

oct 30 - oct 12 = 18 days

rate of travel to current location:

758 mi / 18 days = ~42 mi / day

from current location to tijuana

distance

2952 mi - 758 mi = 2194 mi

time, at actual rate of travel (~42 mi/day):

2194 mi / ~42 mi/day = ~52 days

estimated arrival date:

oct. 30 + ~52 days = ~dec. 21


5 posted on 10/30/2018 10:27:55 PM PDT by SteveH
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The Mexican government, regardless of which party is in office, never tires of telling us that we need to admit more Mexican immigrants. Let Mexico's government lead by example and offer permanent refuge (and citizenship) to this "caravan" of Hondurans.

Similarly, why doesn't Saudi Arabia admit their Sunni Arab brothers from Syria rather than complaining about Europeans who are less than happy of having them dumped on their shores? Surely they have the money and open space to spare.

6 posted on 10/30/2018 10:30:00 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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7 posted on 10/30/2018 10:32:03 PM PDT by bkopto
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To: TennesseeProfessor

Polite commies will have women and children out front.


8 posted on 10/30/2018 10:45:33 PM PDT by ptsal
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The two groups combined represent just a few days’ worth of the average flow of migrants to the United States.
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I hope people understand this.

Our border is under assault every day.

Every day thousands cross our border.


9 posted on 10/30/2018 11:25:15 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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They are not walking. They are being transported by truck and bus.
That is what you failed to state.
Good numbers for distances involved but share the truth, this is a political stunt to influence an election. Collusion anyone?


10 posted on 10/30/2018 11:28:21 PM PDT by 9422WMR (To be against Trump means you have to be against lower income taxes.)
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Spike strips.


11 posted on 10/30/2018 11:36:50 PM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't waiting. Do it today.)
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Experts widely dismissed the idea that the president could unilaterally change the rules on who is a citizen and said it’s highly questionable whether an act of Congress could do it, either./

These "experts" couldn't define where this so called "birthright" citizenship came into being because the Founding Fathers didn't put it in the Constitution and the 14th Amendment doesn't and never did include foreigners or vagabonds, just the newly freed american slaves(not even American Indians got citizenship by this Amendment and specifically excludes them because the tribes are nations to themselves(one doesn't make treaties with "citizens" but with nations).

"Fredo" Cuomo embarrassed himself tonight when he 'authoritatively" announced "experts" said Trump couldn't change "Birthright citizenship" by executive order.
12 posted on 10/30/2018 11:48:37 PM PDT by RedMonqey ("Those who turn their arms in for plowshares will be doing the plowing for those who didn't.")
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

There goes the neighborhood.


13 posted on 10/30/2018 11:57:24 PM PDT by knarf
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USA Today left out this pic of a packed truck until the very end of the article:

PHOTO: Miigrants hitch a ride on a truck as they take part in a caravan heading to the U.S., in the outskirts of Tapachula, on their way to Huixtla, Mexico.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/10/23/migrant-caravan-president-trump-mexico-us-mexico-border-immigration-central-america-honduras/1736274002/


14 posted on 10/31/2018 12:25:44 AM PDT by MAGAthon
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” We were only

twenty-four hours from

Tegucigalpa ...”


15 posted on 10/31/2018 12:32:58 AM PDT by Peter ODonnell (In the alternate universe, John McCain was a one-term president and Sarah Palin a two-term president)
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The sad part is these people are not going to get anything out of this gruelling journey.

Minimally 80% of asylum seekers are denied. For them it's probably going to be 100% rejection because they took part in an invasion. I wonder if they know this?

I bet they are being lied to by the "organizers" of the caravan.

16 posted on 10/31/2018 1:30:44 AM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't waiting. Do it today.)
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Being accepted for asylum is very difficult if the definitions are followed. I’m all for accepting people who meet the definitions. But having a dirt bag husband or boy friend, being poor, or having gangs in your country are not even close. A nephew of mine recently immigrated to the USA from Taiwan. Took ten years. His final package to the National Visa Center was about 50 pages, mostly financials on his sponsor. Again, I am all for people who do it right. It is a big project, and they are serious about becoming US citizens.


17 posted on 10/31/2018 2:21:59 AM PDT by Stevenfo
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Juchitan is near the elbow joint of Oaxaca in Southern Mexico near the Pacific, meaning (as you have calculated) that there’s no way they can walk all the way to the U.S. border by election day. Most people don’t realize how large and mountainous Mexico is to travel through. I had contemplated driving to Panama from Texas (an idea I’ve since scrapped) and I calculated it took roughly a week just to reach Guatemala by car if I did not drive at night (no way, Jose) and stayed within the recommended speed limits. The thought of walking that way would be a torturous ordeal similar to crossing the Mojave.


18 posted on 10/31/2018 2:22:12 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (CNN - the most busted name in news.)
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"they are serious about becoming US citizens"

Yes. Political correctness, and blame America, have become so ingrained into our national consciousness, that the simple, common sense idea of bringing people into our country who will be a benfit to it, sounds like a radical idea.

19 posted on 10/31/2018 2:38:56 AM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't waiting. Do it today.)
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20 posted on 10/31/2018 2:57:43 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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