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To: Right Wing Assault
Is a visitor to the USA "subject to the jurisdiction" of the USA?

Can they be arrested and tried in our courts if they break our laws? Then they are subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.

80 posted on 10/30/2018 4:15:09 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Why were indians not given citizenship under the 14th when it was first enacted?

Shirely, they were under the jurisdiction of the U.S.? Right?


92 posted on 10/30/2018 4:28:35 AM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Jeff Sessions IS the insurance policy)
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To: DoodleDawg

That will be the issue for the court or congress.

Can they forced to serve in our military? Enlisted maybe. can they vote in our elections? Sorry, everyone has a law abiding responsibility wherever they are.


114 posted on 10/30/2018 4:49:18 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: DoodleDawg

The children of diplomats from foreign countries can be arrested here. However, during the debate on the floor of Congress over the Fourteenth Amendment, the author of the Amendment specifically said that those children are not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. He was fully aware that such children could be arrested, and there is quite a bit of evidence that without that very firm statement the Amendment might never have passed in the first place.


136 posted on 10/30/2018 5:13:31 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: DoodleDawg
I think the correct way to think of it is all the benefits of US citizenship are null and void if you’ve never entered the country legally to begin with.

I’ve never entered Germany legally as a visitor or refugee - do I currently have all the benefits of German citizenship? Would I if I snuck into the country and started living under a bridge?

142 posted on 10/30/2018 5:16:54 AM PDT by atc23 (Votante Blanco)
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To: DoodleDawg
Can they be arrested and tried in our courts if they break our laws? Then they are subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.

Can they seek refuge in another country's embassy or consulate while in the United States, where they are not subject to our jurisdiction?

If they can, then they do not have full and complete allegiance to the United States.

There is no territory inside the United States where you or I can avoid United States jurisdiction, is there?

-PJ

262 posted on 10/30/2018 7:50:11 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: DoodleDawg
Can they be arrested and tried in our courts if they break our laws? Then they are subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.

That doesn't make any sense. If your interpretation is correct, everything following the "and" is completely unnecessary and redundant.

315 posted on 10/30/2018 10:59:30 AM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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