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To: kabar

“The numbers are in the millions in terms of the children of illegal aliens and birth tourism.”

No sh!t. That’s why it’s such a travesty.

“When you say that there is “no law” granting birthright citizenship, you are flat out wrong. “

Yeah, stick your fingers in your ears and keep telling yourself that. Your insistence that the courts will get involved and ‘solve’ things is very peculiar. You do realize they’re the weakest branch. The unelected branch. That they’re not the final arbiters on what is constitutional....


208 posted on 10/30/2018 6:44:00 AM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Jeff Sessions IS the insurance policy)
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To: Electric Graffiti

“That they’re not the final arbiters on what is constitutional....”

The Supreme Court certainly is, unless you’re planning on passing the Constitutional Amendment.
New line
And the Supreme Court is now fairly conservative. Might be even more so by the time this subject. Trump is brilliant to be doing this right now.


228 posted on 10/30/2018 7:08:18 AM PDT by CottonBall (Thank you , Julian!)
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To: Electric Graffiti
Yeah, stick your fingers in your ears and keep telling yourself that. Your insistence that the courts will get involved and ‘solve’ things is very peculiar. You do realize they’re the weakest branch. The unelected branch. That they’re not the final arbiters on what is constitutional....

The courts will decide it regardless of whether Congress passes a law or the President issues an EO. Both actions will be challenged legally and the Courts must adjudicate the constitutionality of the edict/laws. It may require a constitutional amendment to end birthright citizenship. Until then, the current practice will continue.

I get it. I don't like birthright citizenship either and believe that the 14th Amendment was falsely interpreted. We know that from the contemporaneous discussions in Congress about the intention of the Amendment and what "under the jurisdiction" meant. There is no law that specifically grants US citizenship to the children of illegal aliens and tourists, but practice and precedent have made it so. It needs to be changed.

If President Trump issues an EO, it will be the first step to righting this wrong. I expect lots of opposition in Congress and the courts. But the American people have made it clear in poll after poll that they don't support birthright citizenship.

244 posted on 10/30/2018 7:33:34 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Electric Graffiti
That they’re not the final arbiters on what is constitutional..

Have you been paying attention for the last 50 years or 60 million abortions? Legitimately or defacto its certainly seems as though they are as a practical matter. I'm trying to think of a recent example where their ruling has been summarily ignored - I can't

306 posted on 10/30/2018 9:58:16 AM PDT by datricker (Cut Taxes Repeal ACA Deport DACA - Americans First, Build the Wall, Lock her up MAGA!)
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