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1 posted on 10/30/2018 2:48:25 AM PDT by be-baw
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Yes, yes, yes!!

Please do this. It can’t happen soon enough!


245 posted on 10/30/2018 7:34:11 AM PDT by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: be-baw
Oh, please, yes.
246 posted on 10/30/2018 7:34:43 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: be-baw

YES! The 14th Amendment was NEVER meant to be used in this manner.


247 posted on 10/30/2018 7:35:04 AM PDT by left that other site (For America to have CONFIDENCE in our future, we must have PRIDE in our HISTORY... DJT)
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To: be-baw; Donald J Trump

Bravo The Greatest Presidency of all time.


253 posted on 10/30/2018 7:39:55 AM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT ( Amos5: Hate evil, love good, And establish justice in the (gate) Court.)
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To: be-baw

Trump wants this to go to the now conservative 5-4 Supreme Court so the constitutional controversy as to birthright citizenship of children born to illegals can be clarified hopefully on the side that the constitution never intended for children of illegals to have birthright citizenship. Clearly if it were a 5-4 liberal court he would not waste his time as the constitution is a mere afterthought to a liberal judiciary in legislative lockstep in enacting progressive policies.Only way of getting it to the Supreme Court is Congress passing a bill ending birthright for illegals. But this would fail passage because Senate Dems would filibuster it. So an executive order should do the trick in getting it in front of the Supreme Court to get the clarification on the issue hopefully ending birthright citizenship for illegals


261 posted on 10/30/2018 7:49:07 AM PDT by chuckee (extended beyond the timens e)
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It’s about time and make it effective immediately.


268 posted on 10/30/2018 7:54:34 AM PDT by southernindymom
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I wish our forefathers had set up a way for foreigners to become legal American citizens. /s/


272 posted on 10/30/2018 8:00:41 AM PDT by Rannug (When you're dead, you're dead. Until then fight with everything you have.)
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JUST DO IT! This will be nullified by commie symp judges so will end up in the Supreme Court where we rule! And will rule even better within a year when Ruth GinzBorg whatever checks out all or halfway as in becoming a 100% drooler.


278 posted on 10/30/2018 8:13:38 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: be-baw

Here is the relevant text from the 14th Amendment:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

It all depends on the interpretation of the words “subject to the jurisdiction thereof.”

Are illegal entrants given that status?


286 posted on 10/30/2018 8:37:28 AM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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NO MORE BASTARDIZTION OF THE 14TH AMENDMENT!

Original intent of the 14th Amendment
Senator Jacob Howard (served on the Senate Joint Committee on Reconstruction, which drafted the 14th) clearly spelled out the intent of the 14th Amendment by stating:

"Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country."

https://www.14thamendment.us/birthright_citizenship/original_intent.html

Sen. Lyman Trumbull, Chairman of the Judiciary Committee, author of the Thirteenth Amendment, and the one who inserted the phrase (All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and the States wherein they reside):

[T]he provision is, that 'all persons born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens.' That means 'subject to the complete jurisdiction thereof.' What do we mean by 'complete jurisdiction thereof?' Not owing allegiance to anybody else. That is what it means.

Sen. W. Williams:

I understand the words here, 'subject to the jurisdiction of the United States,' to mean fully and completely subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.

https://www.14thamendment.us/articles/anchor_babies_unconstitutionality.html

Senator Jacob Howard states the intent of the Fourteenth Amendment published in the Congressional Record May 30, 1866.
https://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llcg&fileName=073/llcg073.db&recNum=11

300 posted on 10/30/2018 9:33:52 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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yes Mr President. end chain migration, now. build the wall quickly. the 14th Amendment is with us, not them.


302 posted on 10/30/2018 9:40:14 AM PDT by dadfly
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He won’t be able to “terminate” it.

He is just getting the ball rolling. This is a Third Rail issue for the Rats.


303 posted on 10/30/2018 9:40:28 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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Go Trump!


308 posted on 10/30/2018 10:01:41 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Brilliant caller on Rush made the point that
it is not the 14th Amendment to the Constitution that gives birth right citizenship to the children of illegals or people on temporary visas - it was the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.

For a century after the 14th Amendment, such people did not receive citizenship.

It will probably require legislation to permanently fix the anchor baby loophole, but there is no problem with the Constitution.


313 posted on 10/30/2018 10:48:33 AM PDT by BeauBo
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316 posted on 10/30/2018 11:00:51 AM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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About 275,000 babies were born to unauthorized-immigrant parents in 2014, or about 7% of the 4 million births in the U.S. that year, according to Pew Research Center estimates based on government data. This represented a decline from 330,000 in 2009, at the end of the Great Recession.

Births to unauthorized immigrants accounted for about one-in-three births (32%) to foreign-born mothers in the U.S. in 2014, according to the estimates.

Pew Research


320 posted on 10/30/2018 11:21:45 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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All,

The late, great Lawrence Auster had a fabulous write up on the subject of Birthright Citizenship not long before he died.

It is preserved here:The Truth About Birthright Citizenship

The summary page of all the discussions is here:The Birthright Citizenship Discussion at VFR

Everything here has been discussed before, and it's surprising that it's even controversial what Trump is doing, at least on the American Right.

It's not.

The most important reference in the article is the brief by Meese and Eastman:Brief of Amicus Curiae The Claremont Institute Center for Constitutional Jurisprudence In Support of Respondents

Larry also wrote The Path to National Suicide which explains how we got here, and he wrote it back when people didn't understand what was happening to us as a result of the Left's shenanigans.

The EO is probably a directive to the Federal Government to stop recognizing the children of illegal aliens as citizens for the purpose of issuing passports. There has been a long standing directive from the State Department to do so, absent any legal directive from the courts or the Congress - they just went ahead and did it. They may have some thin backing from Wong Kim Ark or even Plyler v. Doe, but not much. In any event, for the State Department, Trump definitely can change that, and in the long term, the Congress has authority to clarify the Fourteenth, they just haven't. There have been many bills to do so, all failing. But if we hold the Congress, I think that would not be the case.

And that is why we MUST hold the Congress in a week.

325 posted on 10/30/2018 11:47:11 AM PDT by Regulator
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YIPPIE KIYEA!!!!!!!!!!! Way to go Donald!!! I have been preaching getting rid of the anchor babies for years. They just sit on their butts across the border and when the those birth pains start they run across the border and have that kid and gets to stay in America so they can take care of that brand new American citizen. Then grand-mom, grand-paw on both sides comes over to help take care of the baby and everyone stay. Before long, Uncle Juan, Aunt Juanita, and the little ones come over to visit and stays, forever.
338 posted on 10/30/2018 2:06:19 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (We are in the Last Days of human history. Jesus is coming back, & soon! Do U know Him?)
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This will be overturned immediately... 14th Amendment is pretty clear on this...he must have an angle to it?


347 posted on 10/30/2018 2:58:42 PM PDT by Heff
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Trump may be the best president we’ve had since Lincoln, perhaps Washington. As much as I loved the Gipper, I’ve never seen such courage or read about such courage in a President.


366 posted on 10/30/2018 7:36:05 PM PDT by Crucial
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