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To: reaganaut1
and other major powers did not employ women in combat in World War I or II

The Russians did in WWII with excellent results.

To the best of my knowledge as snipers only.

See the book and/or movie, "Enemy at the Gates".

21 posted on 10/19/2018 5:57:39 AM PDT by Mogger
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To: Mogger

‘To the best of my knowledge as snipers only.’

yes, but the question concerns their deployment on the front lines...


30 posted on 10/19/2018 6:05:27 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Mogger
and other major powers did not employ women in combat in World War I or II

The Russians did in WWII with excellent results.

To the best of my knowledge as snipers only.

And as spies....record the French lady who passed away a few years ago...and the family found all her memoirs and some of the highest bravery medals that she was awarded.

41 posted on 10/19/2018 6:10:19 AM PDT by spokeshave2 (The Paradigm has shifted...the New World Order is Trumpian.)
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To: Mogger
Actually, not every Soviet woman that served was a sniper.

Badass of the Week: Mariya Oktyabrskaya


When Nazis invaded her homeland, bombed her city, blew up her house, kicked over her garbage cans, walked across her kitchen floor without taking their boots off, and violently killed her husband during the Battle of Kiev, the Ukrainian housewife/political activist/ultimate killing machine Mariya Oktyabrsakaya didn't just get so roid-ragingly pissed that should could have torn the turret off a Panzer IV with her teeth.

She got revenge. Violent, armor-piercing, high-explosive, white-knuckled revenge served Siberian Ice Cold with a side of mashed potatoes and a pot of hot borscht to the face.

This hardcore woman sold all of her worldly possessions, clenched her teeth, bought a 26-ton T-34 Main Battle Tank, taught herself how to drive it and repair it, and just start blasting the ever-loving unholy Nazi-loving dickballs off of every single gun-swinging Fascist bastard that came within range of the fearsome-looking 76mm cannon mounted on the turret of her vengeance-fueled war machine, and she didn't take her finger off the trigger or her hands off the throttle until someone pried them out of her cold dead hands.


Excerpt-read balance of article at link
51 posted on 10/19/2018 6:25:51 AM PDT by Bratch ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke)
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To: Mogger
The Russians did in WWII with excellent results. To the best of my knowledge as snipers only.

Women snipers were in defensive positions, and did not have to carry 80 pounds of gear for days across miles.

54 posted on 10/19/2018 6:28:28 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: Mogger

Your model is skewed. Germany was running ragged over Russia, defense of homeland everything goes.
For expeditionary wars of diplomacy (failed), why waste the reproductive and nurturing component of our society?

Can women d the job? No, not really. can they sit in offices and push data? certainly. can they fly combat aircraft? Should they ? Why? to prove they are “equal” when everything parameter wise must be skewed to fit the paradigm?

Every person on this forum who served with females in ground units ( USA, USMC) know that they do not deploy nor stay deployed nor do their jobs w/o high turnover, failure and supplemental manpower. It is a fact that DOD hides to fit the agenda.

And yes, combat is evil, some of the actors are too.

Living in a state of war vice a state of society is a wonderfully horrible thing. Gloves come off, kill or be killed. Moving in a population of people who is a mix of either neutral or enemy but impossible to differentiate until bad things start happening is a hard way to spend time. Everyone who has experienced it either hates it with a passion or is motivated beyond words to the excitement of it and surviving.

Ask anyone who was beyond the wire for the last 17 years in direct combat roles and you’ll see a 50/50 split- those who tremble and those who feel an adrenaline rush at thought of o the time on mission. The former seek cover of sorts, the latter buy crotch rocket or do extreme sports etc. We all find ourselves in one or both categories over time as warriors. Survival guilt, fear of the truth of our actions/inactions and shadows of battle buddies past haunt most of us far too long.

The high suicide rate of todays military experienced men, serving or veteran, attests to the extremes of response.

Combat vet males kill themselves at an out of sorts rate compared to similar non veteran males. Combat vet women crumple but survive more often. Ask them.

Still, I advocate all young men should enlist/commission and serve in the military at least for a full MSO, then decide what life is about. They’ll be grown men or weeded out.


69 posted on 10/19/2018 9:21:39 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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