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Most Livable Cities? Questioning Those ‘Livability’ Rankings
Townhall ^ | 10/14/2018 | Colin McNickle

Posted on 10/14/2018 8:10:47 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: nwrep

Gee whiz, could smog reduction be related to loss of the manufacturing that once thrived in our big cities?


21 posted on 10/14/2018 11:49:58 PM PDT by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: get the government out of medicine and education!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Read again as per article......ranked Pittsburgh as the 32nd most-livable city ‘in the World’..... and second-best ‘in the United States’....

No way they’re second place...


22 posted on 10/15/2018 12:13:24 AM PDT by caww
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To: SeekAndFind

Most livable cities should be determined by which ones have the lowest percentage of democrats.


23 posted on 10/15/2018 1:02:03 AM PDT by TonyM (Score Event)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

The problem is we long ago reached the point of diminishing returns, while the bureaucrats keep trying to force us to eliminate the last fractions of a percent of various pollutants at great cost and extremely questionable cost-benefit ratio. And the EPA declaring CO2 a pollutant was just absurd.


24 posted on 10/15/2018 1:25:09 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve been away for a while, but Pittsburgh public schools were bad even in the 1980’s. However, the rating was for Greater Pittsburgh, not just the city. There were a number of very good schools in the metropolitan area.


25 posted on 10/15/2018 3:17:32 AM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Ha! I actually thought Pittsburgh was a halfway decent place to live, until I read the article.

Seriously, though, you have to wonder how those “livability” rankings are determined. I agree that a lot of the time they are simply promotional B.S.


26 posted on 10/15/2018 3:50:36 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Democrats: The perfect party for the helpless and stupid, and those who would rule over them.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I don’t think some of these rankings even include areas without the required number of minority victim inhabitants - apparently living without them makes life empty.


27 posted on 10/15/2018 4:07:52 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Vince Ferrer

The Rustbelt cities of the northeast are unlivable because the low-profile race war has created a situation where 1) you can be attacked on mass transit on your way to work, and 2) if you live in a decent neighborhood the government will transplant the enemy right onto your street with housing vouchers - so you can’t invest 30 years of mortgage & property tax payments into anything unless it is first ethnically cleansed. Some cities do that with certain neighborhoods, but if the savages have access via mass transit it doesn’t matter - they’ll still ruin it.


28 posted on 10/15/2018 4:13:57 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Vince Ferrer

You nailed it. The problem is one of diminishing returns as you put it so well. If environmentalists trumpeted their success they would have to, at some point, admit “Our job here is done,” but they will never do that. Instead of working to reduce the really bad pollutants like SO2 and NOx (which are now under control), they were forced to turn their attention to a clear, odorless, inert gas - CO2 - and pretend it causes harm. They are also going after microscopically small pollutants like mercury in coal as part of their effort to kill coal and move to “green” energy. Ironically, if you step back and look at solar and windmills from a complete systems perspective, you find they are dirtier than coal.


29 posted on 10/15/2018 5:27:04 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: SeekAndFind

IMO “the most livable” city would have a population of less than 10 in a large county with a population of less than 1 person per square mile.

After enjoying the freedoms of living in the country in the middle of nowhere, there’s just no way I’d ever move to a city again.


30 posted on 10/15/2018 5:34:00 AM PDT by redfreedom
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To: The Westerner
Maybe concentrating manufacturing in small geographic footprints wasn't a good idea. Modern JIT inventory management practices, better transportation networks, better availability of energy sources (you no longer need water power), better availability of labor all made it possible for manufacturing to move out of cities.

United States manufacturing reaches an all time high of 2000.40 USD Billion in the first quarter of 2018:


31 posted on 10/15/2018 5:35:40 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: FreedomPoster

Well out. You precisely stated what I wrote in #29 (before reading your comment), but I used four times more words.


32 posted on 10/15/2018 5:39:23 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: FLT-bird

Sounds like Oklahoma City.


33 posted on 10/15/2018 5:46:15 AM PDT by ops33 (SMSgt, USAF, Retired)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Good points on solar and wind. Such boondoggles.


34 posted on 10/15/2018 5:48:49 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

And thanks.


35 posted on 10/15/2018 5:49:09 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: redfreedom

RE: After enjoying the freedoms of living in the country in the middle of nowhere, there’s just no way I’d ever move to a city again.

How close is the nearest hospital (just in case)?


36 posted on 10/15/2018 7:29:55 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Most Livable Cities”

I stopped right there. There is no such thing.

Cities are crime saturated hell holes infested with liberal slackers.

When you get down to towns of 10,000 or less they start becoming livable.


37 posted on 10/15/2018 7:58:15 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Adjusted to inflation? 1972, I believe, is when Nixon took us off the gold standard?


38 posted on 10/15/2018 8:21:56 AM PDT by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: get the government out of medicine and education!)
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To: The Westerner

I didn’t check, but I assume so. Most such charts are in constant, not nominal dollars.


39 posted on 10/15/2018 9:19:31 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: John O; All

My neighborhood in Chicago has a lower crime rate than almost all cities, it is also cleaner and quieter. Crime is concentrated in a few neighborhoods.

There are no civilizations without cities and they have always been more dangerous and more productive than their surrounding rural areas. That is where culture is created (the Blues are perhaps an exception) and carried forward.

Every great civilization has had a large city as its source of power. That is still true and they dominate the regions they are in.

Without the demand for food from Chicago Illinois agriculture would be bankrupt for example.

Cities are where the jobs and wealth are and that won’t change, meaning the migration to cities from rural areas won’t stop. And Economics are the principle reason.

If you doubt this check the rush hour expressway traffic into and out of Chicago. Inbound tariff and outbound traffic require increasing the specified lanes by two lanes switched to inbound or outbound depending on the direction of traffic.


40 posted on 10/15/2018 10:44:00 AM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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