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To: vannrox; Fred Nerks; Lazamataz

Of course the United States is a Republic. Benjamin Franklin said so*, and that’s good enough for me.

Franklin did not say anything at all about “Progressive Democracy,” which is a modern term of leftist politics used not infrequently as a propaganda tool by socialist leftists and soft nosed idiotic country club RINOs like Romney.So our history is very clear on the point that the USA is a Republic.

The left keeps whining about it , trying to revise history so they can usher in a totalitarian nanny state as a ‘purer democracy.’, complete with mob violence. Mob violence, in the minds of touch holes at metallicman.com is justifiable as democracy in action , you see.

This is why we hav the topics of both the electoral college being disbanded becuase we need only the popular vote ( The rule of the cities over the rest of the country) , and talk about not being a Republic.

Take it to the bank, we were founded as a Republic, a historical; fact. The leftists can fit that up their rectal orifices sideways if the have to, give them some Trump lube.

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AUTHOR: Benjamin Franklin (1706–90)
QUOTATION: “Well, Doctor, what have we got—a Republic or a Monarchy?”

“A Republic, if you can keep it.”

ATTRIBUTION: The response is attributed to BENJAMIN FRANKLIN—at the close of the Constitutional Convention of 1787, when queried as he left Independence Hall on the final day of deliberation—in the notes of Dr. James McHenry, one of Maryland’s delegates to the Convention.

McHenry’s notes were first published in The American Historical Review, vol. 11, 1906, and the anecdote on p. 618 reads: “A lady asked Dr. Franklin Well Doctor what have we got a republic or a monarchy. A republic replied the Doctor if you can keep it.” When McHenry’s notes were included in The Records of the Federal Convention of 1787, ed. Max Farrand, vol. 3, appendix A, p. 85 (1911, reprinted 1934), a footnote stated that the date this anecdote was written is uncertain.

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29 posted on 10/11/2018 5:04:01 AM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Candor7

Our Constitution was set up as a mechanism; a nation, where people could self-govern themselves. The framework was established as a Republic. The founders absolutely detested Democracies and did not want the United States to be anything even remotely resembling a Democracy.

However, the people that followed them, thought otherwise. They felt that a limited government where people had self control of their own governance was a folly and needed to be “improved”. Thus a number of amendments were drafted up by the Convention of States to change the United States away from a Republic and into a Democracy.

In 1803, a mere 27 years later, the 12th Amendment was ratified. This was done in a rather short time. It took a mere six months to quickly ratify this amendment. This Amendment made both the President and Vice President electable by popular vote. You know, like a Democracy does.

Then, in 1913, a the 17th Amendment was ratified. It established the direct election of United States Senators by popular vote. You know, just like a Democracy does.

These two changes were significant.


If you take a hamburger, and remove the beef patty, what is it?

Is it still a hamburger, as Conservatives claim?
Is it a sandwich, as Liberals claim?

Or, is it something else; Two slices of bread with condiments in between?


They changed the United States Constitution in a fundamental way. They turned it into a Democracy with only the smallest vestiges of a Republic scattered about in the tattered remains of the once impressive document.


68 posted on 10/11/2018 5:27:52 PM PDT by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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