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To: Elderberry

Ethanol is bad policy, bad economics, bad for engines, but great for the crony Ag lobby.


2 posted on 10/10/2018 4:13:04 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Yeah WTF?!?!?

You are not obligated to keep a BAD campaign promise!

Trump has been nothing less than a STELLAR president.

Here, however, he is wrong.


3 posted on 10/10/2018 4:15:08 AM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Ethanol is bad policy, bad economics, bad for engines, but great for the crony Ag lobby.

Agree on all. But to keep the midwestern corn belt on board politically? I’ll rebuild my engines if I have to.

8 posted on 10/10/2018 4:27:05 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

At least I still have a practical reason to discuss the inefficiency caused by subsidies in my Economics classes...
:(


10 posted on 10/10/2018 4:29:13 AM PDT by 4Liberty ("The Democrats are the Party of Crime!" - Donald J. Trump)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Boy, do I disagree with Trump on this. Ethanol is just bad.

Bad.

Bad.


17 posted on 10/10/2018 4:36:38 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I agree, and wonder why Trump is in favor of it. Do you think there’s more to the story?

I don’t like ethanol in my car. I also deplore the idea of taking food and converting it to car fuel...So here are my questions.

1. Is ethanol made from corn and other eatable crops, or is it made from the waste products, eg corn cobs, and corn stalks?
2. Is it true that it actually takes more energy to produce ethanol than what it saves?
3. Does ethanol improve mpg? If not, then why are we using it?
4. Does ethanol contribute to higher prices for food? (meat, corn based products etc etc.)
5. Does the gov’t subsidize this industry or can it make it on its own?
6. In summary, what are the facts about this?


37 posted on 10/10/2018 5:18:36 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Ethanol is $hitty for the environment and $hitty for any fuel system pre-2016 its run through.


71 posted on 10/10/2018 6:51:34 AM PDT by speedracerx (The fate of our great nation lies in the hands of true conservatives!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I’m not high on ethanol made from corn but in the grand scheme of things it’s a small item. Trump is attempting to keep all of his campaign promises to everyone. I could not be happier.


72 posted on 10/10/2018 6:51:39 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight yourr way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Meh. For all Trump’s good, I’ll take one bad.


75 posted on 10/10/2018 6:58:03 AM PDT by Lazamataz (On future maps, I suggest we remove the word "California" and substitute "Open-Air Asylum".)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

/Ethanol is bad policy, bad economics, bad for engines, but great for the crony Ag lobby.

I agree, but the folks out here in Iowa like it. Front page news on our university newspaper. I respect our farmers, but it would be nice if they could see past their own interests sometimes.


79 posted on 10/10/2018 7:10:01 AM PDT by radiohead
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Politics.

You want to keep rural states in your camp after the tariffs cutting into the biggest market for their products. Losing the China market to South America is going to hurt badly.


86 posted on 10/10/2018 8:04:18 AM PDT by redgolum
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If the corn farmers had any sense, they would realize that subsidies and government interference in the market actually hurt them. It keeps marginal farmers hanging on when they should quit, it favors large ag businesses over family farms, and it contributes to distortions in pricing and to surpluses that glut the market.


97 posted on 10/10/2018 9:36:33 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX (..Do not be frightened, and do not be dismayed, for the Lord your God is with you.. Joshua 1:9)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I’m not sure it’s bad policy.

When they first started 10% ethanol and I got a > 10% drop in fuel mileage it seemed nonsensical. But then I got a more recent car and I don’t see a large difference in mileage.

So if ethanol helps us stretch our oil supplies, then great.

If oil is a finite resource then the policy makes sense.
If it’s a renewable resource then it might still make sense depending on the speed which the earth renews it.


101 posted on 10/10/2018 12:49:07 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Ethanol is bad policy, bad economics, bad for engines, but great for the crony Ag lobby.

That may be true, but Ted Cruz opposed the stupid ethanol boondoggle and beat Trump in the Iowa primary anyway.
109 posted on 10/12/2018 2:47:51 AM PDT by publiusF27
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