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Army might have found its new rifle in Colorado Springs garage
Gazette ^ | Sep 30, 2018 | Tom Roeder

Posted on 10/01/2018 12:25:29 PM PDT by george76

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To: buwaya

i misread the description as being essentially a portable railgun. Obviously, with something like that, you couldn’t use lead bullets. You’d need something that interacts with an electrical field better. I want a rail gun.


61 posted on 10/01/2018 2:16:54 PM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Prone firing was why the sten gun had a side mounted magazine


62 posted on 10/01/2018 2:17:09 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: buwaya

I would think a unitary discharge of four 6mm rounds would give you a heckuva sore shoulder, eh?


63 posted on 10/01/2018 2:18:31 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1

Probably.
That’s why my favorite gun of all time is the M1 carbine.

I used to envy the fellows carrying that, vs the M1 Garands that we ROTC boys had.


64 posted on 10/01/2018 2:22:29 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: imardmd1

I take that as a feature to be used by mightier men than I am.


65 posted on 10/01/2018 2:23:19 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: george76

Come on, this is EASY!!!

1. Use the existing AR15/M16/M4 design concept.

2. Change it to a piston vs. the existing gas impingement system to increase reliability. Obviously, test it for millions of rounds on dozens of rifles to be sure.

3. Change the round used to the 6.5mm x 55. The decrease in the coefficient of drag, the increase in sectional density and the increase in weight of the round vs. any of the 5.56mm bullets will create greater lethality at any range, and greater range for effective engagements where necessitated by the terrain. For those who claim that the heavier weight means less rounds carried - you’re right, but the greater lethality means that you don’t NEED as many rounds.

4. Train our combat guys to be real marksmen - all of them, not just a select few.

Adopt the same round for the SAW and other supporting weapons, and you’ll also simplify logistics. Send all of the 5.56 mm rifles, mags and ammo to the NG, or sell it to civilians. Oh, and YES, repeal Title 18, Section 922(o) so that the CMP can sell full autos to the public and the feds will not only make money on the sale of rifles, but also $200 per on the tax stamp.


66 posted on 10/01/2018 2:46:53 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: FrankR

NO batteries, just a real long extension cord and or a few solar panels would work.


67 posted on 10/01/2018 2:47:32 PM PDT by oldasrocks (rump)
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To: george76

250 rounds/sec...out of 4 barrels? Hmmmm....
On a rifle held by a human?
Even with a large tree behind them, I doubt it, and if you do, find a good Doctor because your shoulder is done.


68 posted on 10/01/2018 2:48:33 PM PDT by mad puppy (E PLURIBUS UNUM)
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"250 rounds/sec...out of 4 barrels? Hmmmm.... On a rifle held by a human? Even with a large tree behind them, I doubt it, and if you do, find a good Doctor because your shoulder is done."

I think that the article forgot about this accessory, which eliminates your problem:


69 posted on 10/01/2018 2:53:39 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: TheTimeOfMan

Depends. Could be far fewer moving parts since most of this is electromagnetic.

Feed and recoil are the untold stories here. 250 rounds a SECOND. Who cares if you have a ‘shotgun’ option? Doesn’t 250 rounds a second qualify?

I love stories like this, however, and I hope this pans out.

Running out of batteries and still having ammo would suck.


70 posted on 10/01/2018 2:58:22 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: george76; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Thanks george76. It was just before my time of course, but I've read in the past that some US fighting men in Vietnam preferred the AK-47 to the M-16. OTOH, the US sent troops into patrol with more firepower than the typical Vietcong terrorist, making the exercise of such a preference through captured arms somewhat unusual and difficult in the eariy going.

The Kalashnikov is an old post-war design, and has been refined a little as needed, and been knocked off by more than a dozen different countries (China, and former allies of the USSR, and of China). More Kalashnikovs and knockoffs are in existence than there are people in the US.

71 posted on 10/01/2018 3:32:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: buwaya

“I used to envy the fellows carrying that, vs the M1 Garands that we ROTC boys had.”

Yeah, when you’re doing the marching manual of arms, but the M1 is a superior battle rifle.


72 posted on 10/01/2018 4:05:27 PM PDT by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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To: dsc

When one is climbing hill after hill in tropical heat, the relative value of 5lbs of rifle becomes a much more disputable question than one would think.


73 posted on 10/01/2018 4:10:45 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: SunkenCiv

“The Kalashnikov is an old post-war design, and has been refined a little as needed”

I used to have a knock-off before the boating accident sent it to the bottom of Lake Powell. Loved it.

Thing is, if I fired a 30-round magazine as fast as I could get back on target and pull the trigger, the barrel got really hot.

I never fired it to destruction, though, so I don’t know what would happen on the battlefield.


74 posted on 10/01/2018 4:11:47 PM PDT by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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To: buwaya

“When one is climbing hill after hill in tropical heat, the relative value of 5lbs of rifle becomes a much more disputable question than one would think.”

Yes, the Filipino guerrillas in WWII were supplied with carbines, but I am told the Americans with them preferred the M1. The carbine ammo was more a hot pistol round than a rifle round.

If you need to hit targets at 500 yards, you want the Garand.


75 posted on 10/01/2018 4:19:46 PM PDT by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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To: wally_bert

Looks like it’s wide open to dirt and water.


76 posted on 10/01/2018 4:28:32 PM PDT by gundog (Hail to the Chief, bitches.)
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To: mad puppy

I understand this max rate mode is a burst out of a single ammo module, each round through its own barrel. Like a shotgun blast, with a tiny delay between shots.

I.e., 250 rps but for four rounds only. Next module

Not sustained fire.

There are regular automatic and semiautomatic modes.


77 posted on 10/01/2018 4:29:28 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: george76

If it’s not gas operated, what cycles the ammunition through the chamber?


78 posted on 10/01/2018 4:49:41 PM PDT by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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To: gundog

Test, improve, retest, improve more.


79 posted on 10/01/2018 4:57:17 PM PDT by wally_bert (I will competently make sure the thing is done incompetently.)
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To: dsc

I think I would prefer the Carbine, especially in close in fighting.

Daddy used the Garand in WWII and loved it. I really don’t know why as it strikes me as heavy and clunky. That 30-06 really is powerful tho.

It seems like 20 or 30 round magazines and soft recoil should count for a lot.


80 posted on 10/01/2018 5:15:17 PM PDT by yarddog
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