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Hurricane Florence generating enormous waves up to 83 feet high
The Virginian-Pilot ^ | 9/12/18 | staff

Posted on 09/12/2018 9:45:20 AM PDT by gandalftb

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To: central_va
During the cold war if you wanted to know where to look for the Soviet Navy SSBNs all you had to do was look for them underneath a hurricane. Those bastards...

It would be rough to come to PD to launch.

161 posted on 09/12/2018 6:14:27 PM PDT by politicianslie (OPTIMIST-Glass 1/2 full- PESSIMIST 1/2 empty TO ENGINEER, Glass is twice as big as it needs to be!)
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To: Bell Bouy II

Used Surfline frequently when we lived in FL.


162 posted on 09/12/2018 6:43:13 PM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Moonman62

Camille hit Pass Christian, MS. I got back 3days after it hit. MS state trooper on what was left of the Bay St. Louis bridge with a Thompson not letting anyone go east on hwy 90.


163 posted on 09/12/2018 6:46:11 PM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: COBOL2Java

I’m sure the waves will be scared and reconsider.


164 posted on 09/12/2018 7:16:28 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: gandalftb

Impressive wave heights-— seen in storms in the open ocean, such as in the North Sea. The key to the ability of high winds in concert with water movement direction... is the depth of the water that can be affected by super strong winds. Old submariners could tell about this (at least the declassified depths, perhaps)— and this in a hurricane is then affected by the warmth of the water, updrafts etc that create the cyclonic winds in the first place- water depth affects this more as a result.

As Florence approaches the coast (and one can see this on good NOAA maps in color relief) it will encounter shallower (relative to the open ocean 700 miles off shore). There are differences in the continental margin between for example Cape Hatteras that has a single huge escarpment that goes sharply shallow to the shelf from 2500 meters at 100Kilometers out to the edge of the Cape (the shelf) from a depth of 4000 meters(12kfeet) at 400 kilometers out. If the storm were to come straight in at Cape Hatteras— one could see such waves if the water remains warm enough- as in the Gulf Stream still close by— coming straight on shore (and probably no more Cape Hatteras- that depth 100 KM off shore is why the fishing is so phenomenal).

The opposite is true off SC coast south from Wilmington where the rise of the sea floor is in gradual stages from 5K meters depth 800 Kilometers out, stepwise to 3K meters at 600KM out, then slopes up to 1200 meters at 400KM and then a long plateau to the shelf from 900 meters to 500 meters 100 kilometers out— very wide “shallower” plateau.affecting the wave formations differently, and dramatically. Like the “shelf” way out to sea off Hawaii that the giant wave surfers get towed by a jetski to catch 80 foot waves that then dissipate moving into deeper water.

nhc.noaa.gov has graphics showing how high the surge up the rivers is forecast-— all the way into Kinston NC with plus 6 feet surge (if it comes at high tide-— whoah- add that in).

Nature is awesome— period.

Recent study of the Carolinas is interesting, esp. for deep sea fishers: https://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/okeanos/explorations/ex1806/welcome.html


165 posted on 09/12/2018 7:41:41 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: tomkat; mikhailovich; Aqua225

WeatherTAP 10:47pmEDT forecast (which is just NOAA repackaged):

Hurricane down to C2.

Will hit south NC (Wilmington or therebouts), as C1 hurricane.

Now I have to wonder, was this entire monster storm thing a hoax?

Easier explanation, “Government CYA”.

Evidently people don’t pay attention, but this has been happening ever since Katrina. Monster storms mysteriously turn into average storms when they get to land where citizens can see them with their own eyes.

Remember, the size on visuals is not indicative of storm power. This morning, the radar returns already looked pretty weak, meaning the storm was dissolving before our eyes.

Tonights declassification to C2 and projected C1 landfall strength just confirms it.


166 posted on 09/12/2018 8:11:21 PM PDT by Aqua225 (Realist)
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To: Aqua225

The Left are melting down over this hurricane being downgraded. They had their hearts set on another “Katrina”, especially as red states were in the path. Now they are pitching a conspiracy theory that Trump had the military seed the hurricane to make it weaken - as if that would be a bad thing if true.


167 posted on 09/12/2018 8:13:35 PM PDT by SamAdams76 ( If you are offended by what I have to say here then you can blame your parents for raising a wuss)
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To: Aqua225

Still too early for celebrating, but your prediction may turn out to have been prescient.
I understand the tendency to err on the side of caution, but have to wonder how much mayhem is caused by (w/ hindsight) unnecessary evacuation orders.
Regardless, I’ll have my crow with a side of fries, if that’s ok ? ;-)


168 posted on 09/12/2018 8:16:30 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: gandalftb

Prayers are continuing


169 posted on 09/12/2018 8:29:40 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: COBOL2Java

Prayerfully, she’ll realize before it’s too late that the hurricane’s numbers are stronger than her family’s.


170 posted on 09/12/2018 8:33:49 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Bell Bouy II

Wow that is cool!

Thanks for posting the link.


171 posted on 09/12/2018 9:53:37 PM PDT by Syncro (Facts is Facts)
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To: tomkat

I am on a low carb diet, I will gladly forfeit my fries :)

But really, it could still do anything, just not with the gusto we were originally led to believe it would carry along with it.

Not looking at the predicted path, but just the way the storm is moving currently, my parent’s area in Northeast NC is still on the menu.

Maybe the curve north will grow tighter and just take it up the coast. Several here have noted that is not possible because a “high pressure area” to the north vanished. This gets into the science area of these things, and I am an engineer, not a weather scientist!


172 posted on 09/12/2018 10:02:26 PM PDT by Aqua225 (Realist)
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To: vpintheak

I wish they would ask her who she voted for.


173 posted on 09/12/2018 10:34:40 PM PDT by missthethunder
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To: gandalftb

“That’s 83 feet from peak to trough and ties a world record.”

With that kind of Pipeline, - Long boards rule!


174 posted on 09/12/2018 10:35:10 PM PDT by EnglishOnly (Fight all out to win OR get out now. .)
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To: Candor7

Amen!


175 posted on 09/12/2018 11:14:00 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: Kickass Conservative
Wow, anyone know how POTUS Trump was able to produce Waves that high

Do not think it has anything to do with Trump.

The devil is pissed because he has to put up with McCain now.

176 posted on 09/13/2018 3:16:06 AM PDT by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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To: gandalftb

Um yeah. 83’ waves from a Cat 2 hurricane. And they say we Texans have “tall” tales


177 posted on 09/13/2018 3:23:01 AM PDT by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
"Yowsa! That’s enough to knock Maxine Waters’ James Brown wig clean off!"

Hope she has it fully charged?


178 posted on 09/13/2018 3:57:06 AM PDT by Sa-teef
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To: eartick

Um yeah. Read the link, Florence was a Cat 4 when that was measured.


179 posted on 09/13/2018 9:08:55 AM PDT by gandalftb
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To: COBOL2Java

2018 Darwin Award Nominees


180 posted on 09/13/2018 9:57:29 AM PDT by RushCrush ( Conservative stuck in Chiraq.)
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