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Trump says he could use the MILITARY to build his wall if Congress won't fund it...
Dailymail.com ^ | September 7, 2018 | David Martosko

Posted on 09/07/2018 7:48:01 PM PDT by raiderboy

President Donald Trump said Friday that he's considering using military resources to finish construction of his long-promised border wall instead of relying on Congress to fund the project through the Homeland Security Department's budget.

He also wouldn't eliminate the possibility of a government shutdown if Democrats continue to confound his efforts to appropriate money for the project on the U.S.-Mexico border.

'We have two options,' he told DailyMail.com aboard Air Force One as he flew from Billings, Montana to Fargo, North Dakota. 'We have military, we have homeland security.'

He was asked specifically about using the Army Corps of Engineers as a taxpayer-funded construction crew.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; Mexico; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Florida; US: New Mexico; US: New York; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: arizona; billings; buildthefence; california; daca; dreamact; dreamers; fargo; florida; mexico; montana; nafta; newmexico; newyork; northdakota; texas; wall; wallwall
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To: Reno89519

Actually ‘ it is a little known fact that congress prohibited the use of defense money for the wall. But that violates separation of powers on national defense and we now own SCOUS.


41 posted on 09/07/2018 10:16:13 PM PDT by raiderboy (Trump promised “shut down the government” in September; if no wall!!)
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To: raiderboy

Don’t believe it.
Trump needs to confront Russia, the military won’t have time to fix the border fence.


42 posted on 09/07/2018 10:23:02 PM PDT by granada
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To: Deaf Smith
I thought the wall was already funded in the last spending bill.

A lot of people including The President tried to make it sound like it was but in truth what little funding was appropriated actually restricted any new wall, only repairs.

I guess he finally heard Anne Coulter's solution(mine as well from day one) loud and clear.

43 posted on 09/07/2018 10:35:18 PM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: Army Air Corps

Lok up recent carfentanal busts and try to imagine WHY we dont have the border shut DOWN right now?


44 posted on 09/07/2018 10:37:59 PM PDT by Therapsid (eagan)
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To: raiderboy

He’s been talking about this wall for years.

In the words of Colon Kapernick: Just Do It!


45 posted on 09/07/2018 11:06:52 PM PDT by AC86UT89
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To: raiderboy; All

From day one, I have recommended that Trump order the Army Corps of Engineers build the Wall. This ain’t rocket science. US STEEL is cranking up steel production, and with EPA standards relaxed, cement production can be cranked up. The Pentagon could hire civilian contractors to fill the GI personnel shortage on the project.


46 posted on 09/08/2018 12:38:46 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: Deaf Smith; All

It appears only about 3 billion has been allocated. We need another 20 more. Paul Ryan and company continue roadblocking funding.


47 posted on 09/08/2018 12:41:32 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: Parley Baer

Good send in the army core of engineers


48 posted on 09/08/2018 3:42:43 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: raiderboy

Could call it “training” for the military construction folks to hone their skills in a hostile environment.....if I weren’t so old, I’d re-up and join them in the effort.


49 posted on 09/08/2018 4:00:00 AM PDT by trebb (So many "experts" with so little experience in what they preach....even here...)
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To: raiderboy

Well, not so simple. Okay, the US Army Corps of Engineers (USACE) is a Headquarters, a construction company without organic assets to do much of anything. They design, the let contracts, they oversee construction, they pay the man, they accept the product. A construction Contractor in the complete sense of the term.
They have no organic military engineer units assigned to them- by law. They must use civilian assets to do construction in the US-otherwise the construction economy would be threatened- some lobbyists decades ago arranged that. The Corps then offers contracts to civilian organizations to build stuff. That requires funds, funds come from a budget- see the picture et?

Okay, the military engineer assets (Army & Marine Corps): combat engineers have limited construction capability- key word is “combat”- we break things, we build force protection stuff, even in theater, we contract civilians to build stuff, budget again.

Military/Naval General Construction Capabilities: SeaBees and USAF Redhorse ( rapid runway repair) and Prime Beef (general construction) units- well, some more general construction assets and capabilities, but very limited in numbers. Four battalions of RedHorse, if my memory is right, and 7 battalions of SeaBees.

The only two things ever already paid for in the military sense of things is pay and allowances, and operations and maintenance. Add a task that requires stuff, and back to the budget bucket line you go.

While the military, if funded, could build a barrier wall, they are not the most appropriate tool in the box.

Remember, all of these military and naval personnel have missions that they are either already doing, just finished doing or are prepping to go do. Operations tempo ( OPTEMPO) and personnel (PERSTEMPO) are still rather high, but of course the services would do whatever the CinC orders and FUNDS.

Wanna talk about who authorizes the FUNDING of the military? Yeah, Congress, just like the constitution says.

Next thought process- well, move military funds from already budgeted activities to fund the wall- well to remember that the laws of the land and constitution require spending of monies on what the were appropriated for. The rule of law thingy again. Either way, congress has to approve funding for the border security issue.


50 posted on 09/08/2018 4:18:16 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Midwesterner53

A general support engineer battalion could throw up a mile of dirt berm and HESCO barrier a day. Would not be pretty but it would stop vehicles and channelize foot traffic making the border patrol’s job easier.


51 posted on 09/08/2018 4:27:54 AM PDT by RedEyeJack (What was the basis for the restriction?)
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To: Deaf Smith

With all of the chuck n nancy spending, the administration just couldnt get it done. Now that its midterms, more promises. Chuck n nancy have better things to do w your taxpayer collars.
I think the military is inefficient and their skills should be used appropriately.
Just more fake promises about the wall. Some great things have been done and we were promised all the chuck n nancy spending would benefit us..still waiting. All it did was fund the deep state.
You think someone would have learned from 1986.. but no.. chuck n nancy get all they can spend and we get more promises.


52 posted on 09/08/2018 4:37:49 AM PDT by momincombatboots (How many vetoed spending dollars with chuck n Nancy without wall funding?)
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To: raiderboy
Then why doesn't he go ahead and do it.

The American Citizen would be behind him. Hell, I would go help.

53 posted on 09/08/2018 5:04:38 AM PDT by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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To: Parley Baer
No question that the our Southern border is a national security issue

And our Northern border as well.

54 posted on 09/08/2018 5:06:03 AM PDT by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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To: Deaf Smith
thought the wall was already funded in the last spending bill.

hell it was funded years ago until OUR great Senator Kay Bailey threw a monkey wrench into the gears. BIOTCH

55 posted on 09/08/2018 5:10:19 AM PDT by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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To: fhayek
DOITQ! (From Trump's Twitter on Nov 7, 2017)


56 posted on 09/08/2018 5:12:42 AM PDT by newfreep ("INSIDE EVERY PROGRESSIVE IS A TOTALITARIAN SCREAMING TO GET OUT" @HOROWITZ39, DAVID HOROWITZ)
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To: raiderboy

President Eisenhower built the Interstate Highway System not only as a transportation initiative, but also as a national defense project.


57 posted on 09/08/2018 5:16:37 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: Deaf Smith

There is no appropriation yet

That will be voted after the election


58 posted on 09/08/2018 5:22:43 AM PDT by bert ((KE. N.P. Neverthe less, they are co N.C. +12) Muller..... conspiracy to over throw the government)
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To: max americana

There you go, max Americana, making good sense.

The dhimmicraps will soil themselves bigly if DJT takes this approach...which is the right approach, IMO.

This will be great theater! Popcorn all around!


59 posted on 09/08/2018 5:23:42 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. Mr Trump, we've got your six.)
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To: GreenHornet

With defense funds. ?


60 posted on 09/08/2018 6:47:27 AM PDT by raiderboy (Trump promised “shut down the government” in September; if no wall!!)
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