Posted on 09/02/2018 6:35:41 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
President Trump called attention Saturday to a new revelation about the federal probe of his 2016 campaign, noting that a secret federal court held no hearings before granting surveillance warrants. “Report: There were no FISA hearings held over Spy documents,” Mr. Trump tweeted. The Justice Department acknowledged in a court filing Friday night that the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court held no hearings on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act spy warrant applications targeting Carter Page, a part-time former Trump campaign adviser who was the subject of four FISA warrants. The court filing was in response to a Freedom of Information Act request by the conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch. Mr. Page was suspected of being a Russian agent, an accusation he denies in connection with special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation. Mr. Trump quoted Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton in his tweets: “‘It is astonishing that the FISA courts couldn’t hold hearings on Spy Warrants targeting Donald Trump. It isn’t about Carter Page, it’s about the Trump Campaign. You’ve got corruption at the DOJ & FBI. The leadership of the DOJ & FBI are completely out to lunch in terms of exposing and holding those accountable who are responsible for that corruption.” Mr. Fitton said in a statement that the FISA court “rubber-stamped the Carter Page spy warrants and held not one hearing on these extraordinary requests to spy on the Trump team.” “Perhaps the court can now hold hearings on how justice was corrupted by material omissions that Hillary Clinton’s campaign, the DNC, a conflicted Bruce Ohr, a compromised Christopher Steele, and anti-Trumper Peter Strzok [a former FBI agent] were all behind the ‘intelligence’ used to persuade the courts to approve the FISA warrants that targeted the Trump team,” Mr. Fitton said.
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Keep in mind the first application was submitted in October 2016.
The Steele Dossier was exposed as fake in December 2016.
The FISA Court approved three renewals of the application in 2017.
The FISA court has no excuses for why they did not question the veracity of the SPY applications when it was renewed three times in 2017.
Sounds like they shopped for a homer judge
One the was in on the scheme.
As a somewhat secretive court, I presume that 'me' as a citizen, could not just walk in and listen. And I presume it is not open to the press. So, just who would attend such hearings in the first place? I presume Carter Page would be out, as he is the subject (ie, target) of this application. Is it open to federal judges? Sinators? Congresscritters?
Why is a ‘secret federal court’ allowed to exist in the first place? Operating in secret and without accountability and oversight cannot be Constitutional. Not by any stretch of the imagination.
This itself is an outrage.
I doubt many hearings at all are held in FISA courts. Can anyone find a FISA hearing that’s been leaked?
In FISA cases, only the government is heard from anyway, and it is presumed that the agencies are being truthful.
You are correct that FISA Court proceedings are held in secret. Secret hearings are not the concern.
The concern is that the DOJ has admitted that the FISA Court Judges rarely question the DOJ/FBI on the veracity of their applications to SPY on American Citizens.
Apparently the Attorney General can sign off on them if they deem it an urgent request.
So, when are they going to haul Loretta Lynch in front of the Congressional committee?
It seems appropriate to post Amendment 4 of the US Constitution. The FISA Court needs to explain how their actions did not violate this amendment.
“””The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”””
Good grief; so we need a “Devil’s Advocate” in FISA courts to make hypothetical arguments against issuing the warrants? Probably hard to find a lawyer who does not already have a positive working relationship with Satan, so that could be a challenge.
Both Carter Page and George Papadopoulos were intentionally inserted into then candidate Trumps campaign for this exact purpose, to provide Comey, Clapper, Brennen, McCabe, McCain, Strozk, Susan Powers, Rosenstein “legitimate” targets for their illegal spying on behalf of Obama,
A major reason for the Mueller ‘investigation’ scheme that most analyst overlook is that it is to locate and expunge all records of these actions implicating themselves while attempting to legitimise their treasonous soft coup activities by making the lie the truth,
Does anyone here think search warrants are done before a court? Or with an advocate for the accused?
Does anyone think judges read probable cause findings before they sign a search warrant for YOUR homes?
There is a lot of outrage here for stuff that happens every day.
There is only one solution. The FISA court system needs to be dissolved.
“””Does anyone think judges read probable cause findings before they sign a search warrant for YOUR homes? There is a lot of outrage here for stuff that happens every day.”””
In this particular case the FISA Court Judges knew the application to spy on Carter Page was based on the flawed Steele Dossier after the Dossier became public in December 2016.
Even knowing that, the FISA Court Judges went ahead approved three renewals of the application to spy on Carter Page in 2017, without questioning the DOJ/FBI about the veracity of their application.
We’ve been acting like the FISA court has no culpability here.
The fact that they have not seemed to be bothered by being lied to places them inside the conspiracy too.
Just like “the dog that didn’t bark” they know their master.
I doubt many hearings at all are held in FISA courts. ......
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If there is any case at all where a hearing should be held, it is situations like this, where a Pedresidental campaign is involved. If a hearing was not needed here, why have a hearing opportunit??
so what if happens every day and you are numb to it, does not make it right. Many of us are not numb and are tired of laws or legal things being done hap-hazard or not followed at all.
As best I can tell, FISA courts rubber-stamp everything. It would be a freak event, like being hit by lightning, for a FISA court to tell the government no. The FISA courts have become a way for the government to ignore the Constitution. They should be shut down.
100% right.
FISA court were supposed to be the grown ups in the system, to see that the FEDs didn’t misbehave.
We blame negligent parents all the time. If FISA is culpable, we have no one.
Amendment 4 of the United States Constitution
“””The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”””
The Judge is there to question whether the ‘probable cause’ is tainted or not. The FISA Court has no documentation that they did anything to question probable cause when the whole world knew the Steele Dossier was highly suspect.
One way for the FISA Court to question the veracity of an application is to hold a hearing.
Clearly the FISA judge is complicit in this deep state treasonous scheme. Hang every SOB involved
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