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NYT: Trump after Cohen plea mused, 'How did we end up here?'
The Hill ^ | 08/22/18 | Michael Burke

Posted on 08/22/2018 8:43:00 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

President Trump reportedly was somber following his former attorney Michael Cohen’s guilty plea on Tuesday and “appeared to realize” the seriousness of the situation, according to a New York Times report.

“We started with collusion,” the president said, per the Times, citing several witnesses. “How did we end up here?”

Witnesses described to the Times a “grim” mood inside the White House after Cohen pleaded guilty to charges of bank fraud, tax fraud and campaign finance violations and after Trump's former campaign chairman Paul Manafort was convicted of eight charges of bank and tax fraud.

According to the Times, Trump's lawyers argued privately that Cohen’s plea “was a punch but not a knockout blow.”

Rudy Giuliani, Trump’s newest personal lawyer, told the Times that, between Cohen’s plea and Manafort’s conviction, “none of it had to do with collusion, none of it has to do with obstruction.”

Giuliani also said Trump isn’t considering a pardon for Manafort but added that Trump “really thinks Manafort has been horribly treated.”

Trump echoed that feeling publicly Wednesday morning, when he tweeted that he feels “very badly” for Manafort and his family. In the same tweet, Trump attacked Cohen, accusing him of lying to get a “deal.”

"I feel very badly for Paul Manafort and his wonderful family. 'Justice' took a 12 year old tax case, among other things, applied tremendous pressure on him and, unlike Michael Cohen, he refused to 'break' — make up stories in order to get a 'deal.' Such respect for a brave man!" he wrote.

Fox News Host Ainsley Earhardt said Wednesday night on the network's “Hannity” that Trump told her he was considering a pardon for Manafort, following an exclusive interview Earhardt had with the president, which is set to air Thursday morning.

“I think he feels bad for Manafort. They were friends, he didn’t work for him very long, worked for him for basically one hundred days,” she said. Manafort, however, was involved with Trump's campaign for five months.

A number of Republican senators have said that Trump pardoning Manafort would be a major misstep for his administration, saying the move would be a "misuse of his power" and "very damaging to the presidency and to his position as president."


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“We started with collusion,” the president said, per the Times, citing several witnesses. “How did we end up here?”

You won. Hillary lost.

1 posted on 08/22/2018 8:43:00 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

More of the MSM staple unnamed “witnesses”. Fake News.


2 posted on 08/22/2018 8:45:10 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: yesthatjallen

Why is the Manafort conviction reported as hurting Trump when there is no connection? Of course I know the answer.


3 posted on 08/22/2018 8:46:53 PM PDT by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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To: jospehm20

Cohen was obviously timed with the Manafort verdict.


4 posted on 08/22/2018 8:47:47 PM PDT by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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To: Williams
They thought it was a fatal twofer.

Trump supporters saw it as blatant overkill.

5 posted on 08/22/2018 8:50:52 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

The Hill.

You can tell which way the paper slant is by their readers comments below.

Ze wind, she blows left.


6 posted on 08/22/2018 8:50:55 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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“Trump’s lawyers argued privately that Cohen’s plea “was a punch but not a knockout blow.”

A punch? It was more like a fart.

The Times is just making s*** up again.


7 posted on 08/22/2018 8:52:19 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: jospehm20

I second your call on fake news. Nobody close enough to President Trump would spill that he was in a dark mood. They flat made this stuff up. Check out Sundance’s remarks on Cohen at conservative treehouse.


8 posted on 08/22/2018 8:53:49 PM PDT by StAntKnee (Add your own danged sarc tag)
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To: yesthatjallen

“The New York Times reported,” lol.


9 posted on 08/22/2018 8:54:07 PM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: jospehm20

Ha. They sure are good at making up fake boardroom blather.

I wonder when their Mexican sugar daddy will get tired of pouring money into this buggy whip factory.


10 posted on 08/22/2018 8:54:56 PM PDT by JennysCool
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To: Trump20162020

John 8:44.


11 posted on 08/22/2018 8:55:32 PM PDT by cowboyusa (America Cowboy UP!)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

We ended up here because Sessions/Rosenstein did not keep the scope of investigation on Russia collusion, as originally set. If anyone thinks sessions is a white hat still, is gullible at best...and what happened to the all knowing oracle, Q ?


12 posted on 08/22/2018 8:57:09 PM PDT by davidb56
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13 posted on 08/22/2018 8:58:05 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZGw2M)
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“We started with collusion,” the president said, per the Times, citing several witnesses. “How did we end up here?”

Simple - Jeff Sessions ducked his responsibility and allowed a special prosecutor to be appointed. Special prosecutors go on fishing expeditions - the point of this exercise was never to find any actual evidence of collusion with the Russians, it was to harass the Trump administration from day one, get people to fumble under oath and obtain perjury charges, and unearth anything else that might turn up.
14 posted on 08/22/2018 8:59:24 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: yesthatjallen

It’s just puffery. Trump has zilch to worry about. If you want to address this specific allegation head-on: Trump had $480,000 retainer with Cohen. Cohen was his legal representative. Cohen says Trump told him to pay Daniels. So Cohen did not use his own money, he used Trump’s retainer, and therefor it could not be construed as a donation. So Cohen is pleading guilty to a crime he did not commit.

And there are many other ways to challenge this particular allegation as well.

But Trump doesn’t have to address the charges. And he hasn’t. Because no matter his guilt or innocent he cannot be charged with the crime anyway. The only way to get him is through Congress and the Senate and that just isn’t going to happen - not with these charges, anyway.

But Mueller is desperate to tie some kind of crime to Trump. So he got Cohen to plead guilty to this campaign finance crime simply to make the argument that Trump broke the law. And one of the few ways to break attorney-client privilege is when the client and attorney both commit the same crime together. So it is a huuuuge stretch, but by getting Cohen to cop to this campaign plea Mueller is trying to break the lawyer-client privilege and of course try to paint Trump with the same brush. IMO it won’t work. Very weak. If this is the best they got, then it is over.

Now, time for payback.


15 posted on 08/22/2018 8:59:35 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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President Trump reportedly was somber following his former attorney Michael Cohen’s guilty plea on Tuesday and “appeared to realize” the seriousness of the situation, according to a New York Times report.

What kind of moron would believe this? Trump doesn't realize what's going on? Hilariously fake.

16 posted on 08/22/2018 8:59:47 PM PDT by montag813
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To: yesthatjallen

They are desperately trying to put a Watergate pall on the Whitehouse. Trump’s comment was not morose...it was a fighting comment. It’s ridiculous.


17 posted on 08/22/2018 9:00:06 PM PDT by sjeann
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To: yesthatjallen

I often wonder who this style of fake news is geared to. Obviously democrats, but I always picture a lonely women with cats.


18 posted on 08/22/2018 9:02:31 PM PDT by ALX
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he keeps embarrassing himself in public. the answer to your question Mr president is MUELLER


19 posted on 08/22/2018 9:08:51 PM PDT by morphing libertarian (Use Comey's Report; Indict Hillary now. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: davidb56

Apparently, Sessions is a no hat


20 posted on 08/22/2018 9:09:44 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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