Posted on 08/14/2018 12:01:18 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
You ignored the other posters
Well that and the apparent fact that the shooter had done this sort of thing before. For me, we don’t get to shoot in self defense only one time in our life. Each case is different.
And I really, REALLY hate bullies.
I know, it’s a heartbreaking and enormous burden on our society.
President Obama and the other race pimps just exacerbated the problem.
I wish people would realize, even on this forum, that “stand your ground” has nothing to do with this case as it did not in the Trayvon-Zimmerman case. You can’t retreat when your head is being beat into the sidewalk or when you’ve been shoved to the ground and (theoretically) the person is about to continue the attack.
I didn’t see the deceased go after the defender after the initial push. However, the video cuts out an unknown amount of time and it is possible he moved towards the defender again.
I am not sure why the deceased thought it was acceptable to walk up behind someone and deck them to the ground. This was not a small push...
It will be interesting to see what the jury decides.
“This had nothing to do with stand your ground.”
I think you and I are the only ones who know this.
LOL!
While this guy was no George Zimmerman, he WAS wrongfully ATTACKED. Thus I would say he has a 50/50 chance of beating the rap. However, since he is WHITE, he will NOT get a free attorney.
“What does the video show? Was it a reasonable shooting?”
A difficult one for me. If I got knocked down like that anger might kick in and make me overact but I’m not sure that’s wrong. On the other hand, he could have pointed the gun at his attacker, or fired it at the ground beneath him.
If he left the attacker uninjured could he have feared a revenge attack using a gun? I would have. His attacker couldn’t control his anger.
Bully and violent... is that what we call men who protect their women from a$$holes? Are we to simply walk up to them and say,”Please sir, with the utmost respect and most sincere desire to help you through this rough patch my woman most obviously caused you... would you, could you please, allow me the opportunity to handle my woman on my own? With all respect and courtesy due you... sir?”
Many people just don’t recognize that once you violently lay hands on someone all bets are off as you have spun the wheel and now you take your chances.
The victim was clearly backing and turning away in retreat just before he was shot. The victim was an ass for committing the assault, but this was a bad shoot and the video is plenty clear to demonstrate that. Of course that doesn't mean you can find a jury in FL to convict him, as the assault alone might be enough for some jurors to let him off.
Your post nails why, if I were on a jury, I could easily find reasonable doubt.
“What complicates this is that the shooter has a history of pulling his gun and threatening people with it.”
And the dead guy had a history of assault, and initiated the violence in this case.
I think the attacker struck a decisive blow and after some observation decided that that was the case.
The shooter didn’t need to shoot the attacker.
There was quite a bit of distance between them, giving the armed man plenty time to shoot the black guy if necessary.
“(1)....(2) A person is justified in using or threatening to use deadly force if he or she reasonably believes that using or threatening to use such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony. A person who uses or threatens to use deadly force in accordance with this subsection does not have a duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground if the person using or threatening to use the deadly force is not engaged in a criminal activity and is in a place where he or she has a right to be.”
All the information I posted is factual and on record as such.
Richard Kelly has not given testimony under oath or by affidavit, nor have the Police Reports been made public, they may completely clear Drejka, and find his accusers disgruntled scofflaws, like you. Additionally it is not clear that the "investigators" are trained Law Enforcement or what their conclusions are, and Drejka is entitled to the presumption of innocence, except in AAABEST's thugocracy.
It is unlikely Drejka could brandish a firearm three times and keep his CCW permit, Florida Sheriffs do a good job of holding permit holders to account.
Good to know you support life threatening physical battery by convicted violent criminal thugs on those annoying busybodies.
This is why all those talking about taking up arms to defend ourselves against violence thugs of the left need a wake up call. Every time someone white defends themselves with force they get ruined by being dragged to court and charged and the media hypes it to cause racial violence.
Yet look at the real crime stats.
McGlockton backed up 1 step then stopped still within attack distance.
I'll try to find the unedited video. Most seen on the msm are edited,
As far as I know his history of pulling a gun consists of the msm reporting 1 incident in which no charges were filed because there was no evidence.
If it was reported by the msm I'd take it with a grain of salt.
The msm is trying to do to Drejka what they did to Zimmerman.
You are correct, when you cannot physically retreat, “Stand Your Ground” is moot, you cannot retreat regardless of what you want to do.
I'm thinking you are probably right in your analysis of this. The only caveat is if the man on the ground claims the other man advanced on him, but from what I saw, it looked to me like he could have brandished the gun, and the man who shoved him would have backed off without having to be shot.
It was a needless killing.
I have known men who were stupid enough to attack a man pointing a loaded gun at them.
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