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Sea level rise 'overblown,' solar energy 'dumb,' conference of climate change deniers, Trump.....
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Posted on 08/09/2018 1:36:31 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

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To: Sub-Driver
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Going by tidal gauge elevations only, it is clear that sea levels have been falling since the early ‘80s.

That is why they changed to satelite data, it is easy to ‘cook.’

21 posted on 08/09/2018 3:18:58 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: HighSierra5

Well, given the rate of rise shown in the chart I posted for the period of 1880-2000 the average yearly rise is .2 cm per year which works out to about 2.5 inches in 32 years. Probably wouldn’t see it swamping any seaside properties.

You’d have to know whether that land had risen or fallen too.


22 posted on 08/09/2018 3:25:19 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: TigersEye

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>> “In any case, measuring sea level is very complicated.” <<

No, it absolutely is not!

Almost all of our tidal gauges have “integrators” that automatically compute the “area under the curve” and give a definite measurement of sea level decline.

That is why they are deactivated now.

Can’t be confused by facts, can we!

Sat data is easy to cook so the scammers love it.
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23 posted on 08/09/2018 3:25:27 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Think I’ll trust Nils-Axel Mörner. You’re a kook.


24 posted on 08/09/2018 3:27:01 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: TigersEye

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Convenient judgment for your cause, thus showing who the kook really is.

Don’t get hypnotised by the mirror; kooks can be so fascinating.
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25 posted on 08/09/2018 3:30:59 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: TigersEye

I’ll try that tonight. Put a bunch of cubes in my water and let them melt.

Could be too that displacement is a function of weight and gallon of frozen water weighs the same as a gallon of liquid water. Still water expands and takes up greater volume when it freezes.


26 posted on 08/09/2018 3:32:52 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Sub-Driver

Solar rules
And everyone knows it


27 posted on 08/09/2018 3:36:32 PM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: dhs12345

Yes, I believe displacement is a function of weight. Also consider that part of the volume of ice in water is always above the water line. I don’t know if the expansion of ice is precisely equal to that volume but I suspect it’s very close.


28 posted on 08/09/2018 3:38:40 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: TigersEye

How in the world can you measure .2 centimeters of sea level? That’s even too small for a margin of error. Back in ‘95 the climate scare mongers predicted that all shorelines would be flooded under 20ft.of water. Didn’t happen. Nobody knows what will happen. They always move the goal posts to keep faking everybody out with an IQ of 24.


29 posted on 08/09/2018 3:59:07 PM PDT by HighSierra5
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To: dhs12345
This site says that the volume of liquid water at room temp. increases about 9% when frozen.

Which is more dense - Ice or Liquid Water?

This site gives the volume of ice floating in water that is above water as about 10% of the total volume.

Iceberg

As I thought, the volume of ice that is above water is not exactly the same as the volume of expansion increase of water to ice but it's close.

30 posted on 08/09/2018 4:03:28 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: HighSierra5
How in the world can you measure .2 centimeters of sea level?

This article give a great explanation of the methods used.

Claim That Sea Level Is Rising Is a Total Fraud

31 posted on 08/09/2018 4:05:17 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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dhs12345 is correct. Frozen water displaces more than liquid water. Don’t believe me ? Take a glass bottle and fill it with water, then put it in the freezer.


32 posted on 08/09/2018 4:29:40 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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They always move the goal posts to keep faking everybody out with an IQ of 24.

Speaking of moving the goal posts.... When water 'rises', it actually depresses the soil/sand. The ground sinks. At the same time, the ground NOT under the water rises.

33 posted on 08/09/2018 4:34:28 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Earthquakes can shift land up and down which by the way we’re way over due for a big one on the West coast. The climate nuts will blame global warming( climate change) for the earthquakes. Global warming is the reason for every woe on and off the earth.


34 posted on 08/09/2018 4:43:01 PM PDT by HighSierra5
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To: HighSierra5

....”Global warming is the reason for every woe on and off the earth”....

Like the Russia drumbeat is the reason for every woe in politics today.....haha...you’d think they’d get the message people aren’t buying what they’re selling.


35 posted on 08/09/2018 4:47:07 PM PDT by caww
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To: UCANSEE2

You’re talking about the expansion of ice. That is not what displacement means.


36 posted on 08/09/2018 5:36:25 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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I’ve had a still or two since and during High School. Brewed some good Vodka and rum. I did find out the school did not appreciate a still in the chem lab though. HA.

Thirty years ago or so we make alcohol out of sugar beets when alcohol was in the mix for gasoline. Drove a Ranchero on a 20% mix. It started hard in the winter and smelled funny all the time.


37 posted on 08/09/2018 5:40:45 PM PDT by oldasrocks (rump)
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the original has some extra bits:

10 Aug: Reuters: At ‘America First Energy Conference’, solar power is dumb, climate change is fake
by Collin Eaton; Editing by Richard Valdmanis and Paul Thomasch
(Republican Congressman Clay)Higgins joked about renewable energy sources, like wind and solar, saying there is probably a conference somewhere in the United States where people are talking about “how the future of the world’s engine will be provided by rainbow dust and unicorn milk.”
David Legates, professor of climatology at the University of Delaware, argued that increased carbon dioxide emissions will not only leave the planet unharmed, but benefit plant life by allowing them to consume water more efficiently.
“So, you would expect, therefore, that this will be a greener planet,” Legates said.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-climatechange/at-america-first-energy-conference-solar-power-is-dumb-climate-change-is-fake-idUSKBN1KU1Y1


38 posted on 08/09/2018 6:06:37 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: TigersEye
That is not what displacement means.

Do you know why ice cubes float ? Why icebergs float ?

39 posted on 08/09/2018 7:46:33 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2; dhs12345
Yes, and I posted two good links in post #30 that explain the expansion of ice, its displacement of water and its density.

I'm sorry but djs12345 was mistaken in his statement that "the displacement of ice (frozen water) in water greater than the equivalent in liquid water." The volume of a given quantity of water expands to about 9% greater volume when frozen. But ice in water only displaces 90% of its volume the other 10% rising above the water.

Of course if you held all of the ice below water it would displace 100% of its volume and being 9% larger than it was as a liquid you would be right, it would displace more water than water.

40 posted on 08/09/2018 7:57:31 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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