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Union submits more signatures for dialysis profits ballot initiative in Ohio
Healio Nephrology News & issues ^ | 08/06/2018 | Healio/Nephrology

Posted on 08/06/2018 7:32:09 PM PDT by aimhigh

Organizers of a union-backed initiative to limit dialysis provider profits in Ohio have submitted additional signatures that should get the measure on the Nov. 6 election ballot. . . . .

The Ohio initiative is similar in intent to one that is set for the November ballot in California. Both proposals, backed by the SEIU, call for limiting profits of dialysis providers to no more than 115% of their costs for patient care. Additional profits would be returned, in the form of rebates, by the dialysis providers to commercial health plans who have patients being treated in dialysis clinics.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: ballotmeasure; commieagenda; commies; dialysis; seiu; union
This is scary. If this wins, it won't stop with dialysis.
1 posted on 08/06/2018 7:32:09 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: aimhigh

“We see you have some money there. Give it to us.”


2 posted on 08/06/2018 7:34:25 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=400><p> zXSEP5Z xnKL3lW XywCCJd)
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To: aimhigh

Next thing you know, all means of production will be owned by the state and the proletariat will no longer be allowed to own private property.


3 posted on 08/06/2018 7:34:46 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: aimhigh

How about all government unions limit their pay scale to 115% of what the job pays in the private sector?


4 posted on 08/06/2018 7:35:59 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Additional profits would be returned, in the form of rebates, by the dialysis providers to commercial health plans who have patients being treated in dialysis clinics.“

More like: “We see you have some money there. Give it to those guys and don’t ask any questions. Or else.”

L


5 posted on 08/06/2018 7:36:54 PM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: American in Israel

There are studies showing that the federal work force visa ve the private sector. Probably because of more education in the former.

Unions have nothing to do with pay in the fedgov.

Get ready for long waits for dialysis and people will die.


6 posted on 08/06/2018 7:42:20 PM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: American in Israel
How about all government unions limit their pay scale to 115% of what the job pays in the private sector?

Don't lay things like that out, government employee unions will stalk away with it... You have to include ALL benefits in those calculations, including paid holidays, vacations, sick leave, etc, etc, etc.

I'd be just happy with 125% of private sector compensation, that'd save us a mint right there.

Of course, add on that all compensation MUST be funded from PRESENT budgets and not future budget funding, since it'd be grossly unfair to write the budget of, say, a future city council or county board of supervisors by pre-loading it with all your benefits promises from today.

7 posted on 08/06/2018 7:46:22 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: aimhigh

Time to pass a law to limit union fees to 100% of negotiating costs for the job at hand.


8 posted on 08/06/2018 7:47:13 PM PDT by Skywise
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What if the dialysis providers go out of business or out of state? What happens to their patients? Will the Marxist-led SEIU do it for them?

The unintended consequences of stupid Marxist programs.

Join the SEIU and cause sick people to die!


9 posted on 08/06/2018 7:50:07 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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What is the net profit for dialysis in Ohio?

And surrounding states?

Do the dialysis providers in border areas charge less?

Do the insurance companies pay the higher rates?

Rent is too damn high...


10 posted on 08/06/2018 8:21:18 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (This Space for Rent)
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To: aimhigh

I worked for the Medicare renal disease program in the early 1980s and wrote my masters thesis analyzing how changes federal reimbursement regulations actually increased the cost of dialysis treatment. Dialysis treatment is primarily paid by Medicare under a 1974 law that extended Medicare benefits to patients with kidney failure who were under age 65. With guaranteed federal reimbursement for dialysis, for profit dialysis facilities have become the primary providers. Putting in essence state rate controls on a largely federally paid treatment will be a regulatory nightmare. I look for many dialysis facilities to simply close because of the complexity of the regulation. Ohio tax payers will also be footing the bill for the creation of a huge regulatory bureaucracy to enforce this law


11 posted on 08/06/2018 8:26:50 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatche)
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What happens when you cap profits on an essential medical service?

(1) There is no incentive to control costs - higher costs mean higher potential profits.

(2) There is no incentive to invest in R&D or new technology.


12 posted on 08/06/2018 11:48:36 PM PDT by zeestephen
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If these “people” are so concerned about the cost of dialysis, why don’t they open a dialysis center in competition with the existing centers. That way they could control the cost without involving the taxpayers. Stupid question, I know...


13 posted on 08/07/2018 12:33:28 AM PDT by snowtigger (Deplorable, and proud of it!!)
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Wait....whut? I wonder if they know what the markup on beer is at the bar down the street.....


14 posted on 08/07/2018 3:57:17 AM PDT by trebb (Too many "Conservatives" who think their opinions outweigh reality these days...)
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To: aimhigh

The health care industry chose to crawl into bed with Democrats. Now they are getting fleas.

I will shed no tears for them.


15 posted on 08/07/2018 6:14:16 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

What are the chances that these companies leave the state and force people to drive hundreds of miles and wait in long lines. There is a reason they can charge more. I do not understand why the Demonic-rats rant about profits while protesting in their $150 Jordan’s and taking selfies with their iphones.


16 posted on 08/07/2018 7:55:30 AM PDT by CoastWatcher
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To: aimhigh
My first wife (God rest her soul) was on dialysis the last five years of her life. I'm glad this nonsense wasn't in effect back then. She received excellent care and her life was almost normal tight up to the end, when she had to be hospitalized.
17 posted on 08/07/2018 5:00:16 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney
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