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1 posted on 07/31/2018 7:42:09 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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Even if this is a bad shoot, it’s no reason to change the law. The AG can still charge after reviewing evidence. The law just kept him from getting arrested on the spot and he doesn’t start with a presumption of guilt.


2 posted on 07/31/2018 7:58:39 AM PDT by fruser1
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It was murder. The shooter had a history of harassing folks in that parking lot. My opinion, he was begging for someone to push back so he would be ALLOWED to shoot. He’s a sicko... The victims pushed him down after a third party states there was a guy harassing a woman outside. He pushes the guy down, but he doesn’t advance on him. He just stood there and then he was shot. Just my view on it guys. It wasn’t stand your ground...


4 posted on 07/31/2018 8:00:25 AM PDT by Mathews (Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV), Luke 22:36 (NIV))
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Sometimes there are no good guys. Sometimes, everybody involved is an asshole. And sometimes, a bunch of assholes engaged in assholery results in somebody (hopefully one of the assholes) getting killed.

And YES, I think the shooter is an asshole. So was the shootee, and so is his female companion.

6 posted on 07/31/2018 8:08:22 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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Drejka said nothing threatening to the woman in the car

Hmmm, so the felon who violently attacked him and threw him to the concrete was threatening his life for no apparent reason?

17 posted on 07/31/2018 8:51:42 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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I have many thoughts on this. 1) the (only - one view) video has been all over the news media here day after day. It shows the victim backing off by a step or two before being shot. We have no audio so we don't know if the guy is threatening the man with the gun while doing that.

2) There are apparently other camera angles that haven't been released that show different things according to the sheriff.

3) There has developed a mob justice mentality that the shooter has to be prosecuted, that isn't justice.

4) From the only angle I have seen it doesn't look justifiable, especially knowing that from media reports the shooter has a history of confronting people over handicapped parking space violations. It makes it appear he was trying to start a confrontation.

5) I'd like to believe that had I been pushed to the ground and the guy was advancing on me simply pulling my gun would've gotten him to back off and think again and I wouldn't have fired. But then again I doubt I would've pursued confronting them over a parking space violation.

Bottom line, I think even if the shooter doesn't get arrested he is going to face a legal battle from a civil suit and it will cost him whatever money he's got just to defend himself, over, in my opinion, a stupid decision to confront and then pull his weapon. When I'm armed I don't go off looking for fights, you can call me every name in the book and get in my face (don't attack though) and that gun stays put, my skin is as thick as it needs to be because that gun settles any argument permanently and I'm not looking for that.

I had a homeless guy approaching Mrs Dad when she was getting into the car and he was seeming to get aggressive and I was on the opposite side of the car. I put my hand on the handle of the gun and started around the car toward her side and repeated that we didn't have money to hand out. He turned and walked away and never saw my weapon because it was under my coat AND I was very glad.

Guns settle arguments in permanent ways and you should be certain of everything before pulling it IMO. So I think the shooter made a bad decision BUT, I wasn't there and didn't hear what was being said either. Maybe the victim was saying to him as he backed off, you better shoot me because if you don't I'm going to kick your a$$?

30 posted on 07/31/2018 9:30:07 AM PDT by Dad was my hero
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Drejka said nothing threatening to the woman in the car...

According to who? Drejka? Or the woman in the car?

40 posted on 07/31/2018 11:19:37 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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