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Well Barbara, would it be easier to ask some of the celebrities that have "gone undercover" from time to time to discover what living a meager existence is like? Perhaps your parish could have one or two of them give a lecture. Yup, may be time to look for a different church but don't expect much change. Unless you move far away from the bay area. Even then, your privilege and guilt will follow.
1 posted on 07/30/2018 8:04:54 AM PDT by rktman
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NON print:

https://www.wnd.com/2018/07/an-insulting-question-could-you-survive-poverty/


2 posted on 07/30/2018 8:05:25 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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Define poverty.


3 posted on 07/30/2018 8:07:22 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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It is insulting. The entire Catholic Church is going tone-deaf at an astonishing rate.

Some of us have LIVED it. Trying to raise a family of four making $25K in a crappy job, etc. Most of us did not stay there.


4 posted on 07/30/2018 8:07:44 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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1. Move away from any family and friends who are bad influences and want to borrow every dollar you make.

2. Rent a cheap place.

3. Don’t have babies.

4. Move near your job. Work 2 jobs or 1 job with lots of overtime. Take all the overtime offered and become indispensable. Learn a trade or go to community college.

5. Save all your money. Don’t buy anything flashy.

6. You won’t be in poverty long.


9 posted on 07/30/2018 8:13:31 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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I’ll let you know when I become wealthy.................


10 posted on 07/30/2018 8:13:32 AM PDT by Red Badger (July 2018 - the month the world discovered the TRUTH......Q Anon)
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I’m comfortably middle class, and I think the answer to the question, from my perspective is, yes, of course, since the reason that I’m comfortably middle-class is that I (and my wife) had the self-discipline and emotional maturity to arise from poverty into the middle class.


11 posted on 07/30/2018 8:14:51 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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Another one:

1. Join the Army.


12 posted on 07/30/2018 8:14:52 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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A real good part of education would be to give a child at age 18 or so $200 and leave them off in an impoverished but mostly safe urban area, with just a back pack full of clothing and necessities and only basic ID. Wish them "good luck" and pick them up in three months.

Then you'll know who can survive poverty and who is suited to rise and meet their full potential.

FWIW, I did that for three months in the Summer of 1968. And "way back then" it was different? Not really. Cities were burning, overwhelmed by anger and dissent.

14 posted on 07/30/2018 8:15:11 AM PDT by grania (President Trump, stop believing the Masters of War!)
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I guess this one is for those not Hardy enough to do the sleep in a cardboard box homeless challenge which in San Antonio is usually scheduled in a big parking lot in winter.


15 posted on 07/30/2018 8:15:49 AM PDT by sockmonkey (I am an America First, not Israel First FReeper.)
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The poorest people in the US are the most likely to be obese, something that has never happened before in all of human history. I see overweight homeless folks all the time. Part of that is the much of the cheapest foods are now the most fattening, but not the majority of it, in my opinion.

So I hope they gain a few pounds after the simulation, or it isn’t very true to form.

Freegards


20 posted on 07/30/2018 8:20:05 AM PDT by Ransomed
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Not expensive. Comes in a variety of flavors and you won't starve. Use half the flavor packet to cut back on sodium. Add some parmesan cheese or a few frozen shrimp for protein.


21 posted on 07/30/2018 8:20:12 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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At one point in my life I thought about participating in our parish St. Vincent de Paul Society. One of the members described what I would see in people’s homes. Huge TVs, junk food, cigarettes etc. I was told that I could not be judgemental.

That’s not me. I just couldn’t do it.


22 posted on 07/30/2018 8:21:14 AM PDT by HotKat (Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason. Mark Twain)
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As long as you can find some fresh bear claws. Maybe some muffin stumps, too.


26 posted on 07/30/2018 8:25:08 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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I survived a few years of poverty, and I did it without becoming morbidly obese like so many of our poor.


27 posted on 07/30/2018 8:25:27 AM PDT by cdcdawg
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Being poor long-term is often the result of one’s own choices.

Finding a way to shuffle slowly forward is the essence of humanity - not to take from others, but to provide something that makes others want to give you value in return.


28 posted on 07/30/2018 8:26:32 AM PDT by MortMan (The white board is a remarkable invention.)
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I gotta ax the question (didn’t see the answer in the article)....

How long will this magnificent Community Poverty Simulation last?

An hour?
The daylight hours of one day?
A whole day?
A week?
A month?
A year?
The rest of the participants’s lives?

Or maybe...one person doing it for 24 hours and then “passing” the simulation off to the next person so they can simulate it for the next 24 hours. Kinda like the famous & oh so wise actors did recently to protest PDJT’s immigrating policies?

Also gotta ax...will these kind folks be stimulating giving away their wealth and possessions? Will the receivers of said wealth and possessions simulate giving them back? What if the receiver simulates refusing to give back their goodies?

Then the parishioners can practice poverty in real-time.

How fitting.


29 posted on 07/30/2018 8:26:39 AM PDT by moovova
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Been there.

Done that.

Didn’t like it.

Trying to avoid it in the future.

Big Government is not helping that effort ...


30 posted on 07/30/2018 8:26:57 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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Reminiscent of Martin Sheen kicking a homeless guy off his steam grate to spend a night as a homeless guy.


35 posted on 07/30/2018 8:35:17 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=600><p>https://i.imgur.com/zXSEP5Z.gif)
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LOL. I think most people have “lived” poverty (not a simulation) at one point or another. That usually is strong motivation to get them earning money so they never would have to “live” poverty again.

But then there are these faux simulations. My favorite example, which I witnessed first hand, was when Martin Sheen decided to sleep in a subway entrance in the winter in Washington DC in the 1980s. He made a big production of it and had the news crews there. He talked about how the homeless were freezing to death in Washington because the government didn’t provide adequate shelters. He slept in a warm sleeping bag for an hour or two and then, when the cameras were gone, he left. That was my introduction to liberal hypocrisy.


38 posted on 07/30/2018 8:36:40 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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I never even knew we were poor growing up as a kid.

I think my first realization as to how poor we were as a family didn’t occur until well after I was out on my own earning my own money.


39 posted on 07/30/2018 8:36:57 AM PDT by TADSLOS (If YouÂ’re Gonna Do Me Wrong, Do It Right...)
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