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HATING LINCOLN: The Now Revered President Was, Like Trump, Widely Hated In His Day
Frontpage Mag ^ | 07/20/2018 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 07/20/2018 8:55:10 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

President Trump has once again drawn the sneers and condescension of the Leftist establishment media with his claim that “I am the most popular person in the history of the Republican Party—92 percent. Beating Lincoln. I beat our Honest Abe.” Lincoln, sniffed Newsweek, “died a decade before the telephone, which is used for polling, was even invented, and about 80 years before job approval polls for presidents started.” CNN intoned magisterially, “That’s a hard claim to back up.”

But lost in the media contempt was the salient fact that Lincoln, as revered as he has been since his death, was a wildly unpopular President in his day, even within his own party. As Trump continues to receive relentlessly negative media coverage despite a booming economy and outstanding success against ISIS and with North Korea, this is good to keep in mind.

Just before Lincoln took office, the Salem Advocate from his home state of Illinois editorialized that “he is no more capable of becoming a statesman, nay, even a moderate one, than the braying ass can become a noble lion.” Lincoln’s “weak, wishy-washy, namby-pamby efforts, imbecile in matter, disgusting in manner, have made us the laughing stock of the whole world.” The Salem Advocate argued, just as Trump’s critics do today, that the President embarrassed Americans before the world: “the European powers will despise us because we have no better material out of which to make a President.”

The Salem Advocate wasn’t alone; the most respected pundits in the nation agreed that Lincoln was an embarrassment as President. Edward Everett, a renowned orator, former Senator and Secretary of State, and 1860 Vice Presidential candidate for the Constitutional Union Party, wrote that Lincoln was “evidently a person of very inferior cast of character, wholly unequal to the crisis.” Congressman Charles Francis Adams, the son of one President and grandson of another, sneered that Lincoln’s “speeches have fallen like a wet blanket here. They put to flight all notions of greatness.”

Critics decided what they saw as Lincoln’s despotic tendencies, often denouncing the very things for which Lincoln is revered as great today. When he issued the Emancipation Proclamation, the Chicago Times decried it as “a monstrous usurpation, a criminal wrong, and an act of national suicide.” The Crisis of Columbus Ohio sounded the alarm as hysterically as John Brennan crying treason after Trump’s press conference with Vladimir Putin: “We have no doubt that this Proclamation seals the fate of this Union as it was and the Constitution as it is.…The time is brief when we shall have a DICTATOR PROCLAIMED, for the Proclamation can never be carried out except under the iron rule of the worst kind of despotism.”

On the day the Emancipation Proclamation was issued, January 1, 1863, former Supreme Court Justice Benjamin R. Curtis said that Lincoln was “shattered, dazed and utterly foolish. It would not surprise me if he were to destroy himself.”

The Gettysburg Address didn’t go over any better. Edward Everett spoke for two hours just before Lincoln, and was showered with accolades. One man who was in the crowd, Benjamin French, recounted: “Mr. Everett was listened to with breathless silence by all that immense crowd, and he had his audience in tears many times during his masterly effort.” One of the reporters present, John Russell Young, praised Everett’s “antique courtly ways, fine keen eyes, the voice of singular charm.”

The Harrisburg Patriot & Union, by contrast, in its account of the commemoration at Gettysburg wrote: “We pass over the silly remarks of the President. For the credit of the nation we are willing that the veil of oblivion shall be dropped over them and that they shall be no more repeated or thought of.”

Everett himself, an experienced speaker who knew good oratory when he heard it, thought otherwise, writing to Lincoln: “I should be glad, if I could flatter myself that I came as near to the central idea of the occasion, in two hours, as you did in two minutes.” In response, Lincoln was grateful but self-deprecating: “I am pleased to know that, in your judgment, the little I did say was not entirely a failure.”

Lincoln did not even command much respect within his own party. The poet and lawyer Richard Henry Dana wrote to Charles Francis Adams in 1863 that “the most striking thing” about “the politics of Washington” was “the absence of personal loyalty to the President. It does not exist. He has no admirers, no enthusiastic supporters, none to bet on his head. If a Republican convention were to be held to-morrow, he would not get the vote of a State.”

In 1864, Lincoln was indeed renominated, but in a way that left Attorney General Edward Bates disgusted: “The Baltimore Convention,” he wrote, “has surprised and mortified me greatly. It did indeed nominate Mr. Lincoln, but…as if the object were to defeat their own nomination. They were all (nearly) instructed to vote for Mr. Lincoln, but many of them hated to do it.”

This is not to say that Trump is a new Lincoln, or that he will be as heralded after his administration as a distant memory the way Lincoln has been. But the lesson is clear: contemporary opinion doesn’t always line up with historical assessment. A notably unpopular President in his day, Abraham Lincoln, has become one of the iconic heroes of the Republic. It could happen again, and likewise the reverse could happen: the near-universal accolades and hosannas that today greet Barack Obama may one day, in the harsh light of history, appear to have been naïve, wrongheaded, and foolish in the extreme – at best.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: civilwar; jobapproval; lincoln; presidents; trump
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To: SeekAndFind

He also appointed his most ardent political enemy as Secretary of War. When asked why he answered, “because he was the best man for the job.” Eventually they became good friends.

Could that happen in today’s domestic or foreign politics??


41 posted on 07/20/2018 11:07:44 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Reagan was hated as well.


42 posted on 07/20/2018 11:13:55 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: DoodleDawg
"Hated today, too, by all the Confederate Constitution supporters around here."

Fixed it for you.
43 posted on 07/20/2018 11:30:55 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: SeekAndFind
HATING LINCOLN: The Now Revered President Was, Like Trump, Widely Hated In His Day

Killing 750,000 people in an unnecessary war would tend to make people hate you.

44 posted on 07/20/2018 11:32:40 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: fortheDeclaration

Reagan was also labelled as ignorant and stupid. In reality he was smarter than all of the left wing news media put together.


45 posted on 07/20/2018 11:33:33 AM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
Yes! And as divided aa our country is, I’d take our situation now over Civil War/slavery era any day.

Civil war had nothing to do with slavery. It was about preventing the South from upsetting trade conditions that funneled 200 million per year into New York, with Washington DC taking their 64 million per year cut.

The Civil War was about money, but the propaganda about it convinced everyone it was about slavery. No, it was about money.

46 posted on 07/20/2018 11:34:57 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Romulus

an after-the-fact pretext.


That’s a Möbius phrase if there ever was one.


47 posted on 07/20/2018 11:34:57 AM PDT by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
And I ask: please take note how much libs love Lincoln.

Lincoln was an extreme Liberal for his era.

48 posted on 07/20/2018 11:36:02 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh, boy, here we go.


49 posted on 07/20/2018 11:37:08 AM PDT by cowboyusa (America Cowboy UP!)
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To: RJS1950
They convinced them to fight and die to defend their rights to own and profit from slaves and their plantations.

They fought and died because men from the North came there with guns to overthrow their elected governments and subjugate them.

They didn't give a sh*t about slavery one way or the other, but someone invading their land was an enemy.

50 posted on 07/20/2018 11:39:07 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Bookmark.


51 posted on 07/20/2018 11:40:47 AM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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To: T-Bone Texan

I was about to comment, this site is widely populated with Lincoln haters. Theodore Roosevelt comes a close second. You’ve a right to your opinion. But to me re-starting the (un)Civil War among people who share living enemies of the Republic to fight today just doesn’t seem a worthwhile pastime.


52 posted on 07/20/2018 11:42:24 AM PDT by katana
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To: rockrr
Please take note too how many normals revere him as well. That should tell you something right there.

He's been deified on our coinage, and everyone thinks he sacrificed to free Slaves. If they knew the truth, that he launched a horrible and bloody war to keep the money flowing into New York and Washington DC, they would not think so kindly of him.

But as usual, the Liberals control the flow of news and publishing and they keep out information they don't want the public to know.

For example, it wasn't until I visited the Lincoln memorial in 2009 that I realized he was willing to keep slavery. I saw it engraved on stone tablets at that memorial, and that woke me up a lot.

All my life I had heard that Lincoln fought the South to abolish slavery, and then I see he considered this point negotiable? If it's negotiable, it wasn't a principle for which men should have died. It was an option.

Fighting an optional war is immoral.

53 posted on 07/20/2018 11:44:46 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Paal Gulli
Fixed it for you.

LOL! Whenever I hear a Confederate supporter talk about Lincoln's violations of the Constitution or how Lincoln was responsible for big intrusive government I have to laugh. Obviously they know nothing of their own Confederacy and the abuses of the Davis government.

54 posted on 07/20/2018 11:46:54 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: TheTimeOfMan
IMO Lincoln could have prevented the ‘civil war’ but choose political expediency instead.

I suspect he calculated it would be short and relatively bloodless. He was wrong.

Second worst president in US history.

I would label him First worst President in History. The Second worst is that Other race obsessed Liberal Lawyer from Illinois.

55 posted on 07/20/2018 11:47:14 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DoodleDawg
Prevent it how?

By not sending warships to fire on the Confederate, thus starting the war, just as his entire cabinet predicted, and just as Major Anderson himself predicted.

56 posted on 07/20/2018 11:48:26 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
Killing 750,000 people in an unnecessary war would tend to make people hate you.

Did wonders for Jeff Davis's reputation, didn't it?

57 posted on 07/20/2018 11:51:19 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DiogenesLamp
They fought and died because men from the North came there with guns to overthrow their elected governments and subjugate them.

And those men came down there with guns because the South launched a bloody rebellion in defense of their institution of slavery.

58 posted on 07/20/2018 11:52:43 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: the OlLine Rebel

That there are a surprising number of non-thinking right-wingers?


59 posted on 07/20/2018 11:53:48 AM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: katana

For me it’s not even close....it’s Woodrow Wilson who by far did the most damage to this country.


60 posted on 07/20/2018 11:54:35 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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