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To: Red Badger

This is the dem’s hail marry save face pass- they couldn’t find evidence of collusion so they target a small group of russians who hacked some computers- big freakin deal- they’ve been doing that for decades- per usual their small operations were totally unsuccessful- but by golly rosenstein just had to make a big show of discovering who the hackers were- Yay- elections are now safe again lol

and by the way- rosenstein worded things in such a way as to leave the ‘russia russia russia/collusion’ debacle open


50 posted on 07/13/2018 9:32:48 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Bob434
This is the dem’s hail marry save face pass- they couldn’t find evidence of collusion so they target a small group of russians who hacked some computers- big freakin deal- they’ve been doing that for decades- per usual their small operations were totally unsuccessful- but by golly rosenstein just had to make a big show of discovering who the hackers were- Yay- elections are now safe again lol

It's too early to say, a lot depends on what comes next.

What the two Russian indictments do is "prove" (as much as you can prove anything about spies), that there were organized efforts by "Russia" to target the American election process.

The first indictment was pretty weak. The people and entities were all private citizens, some say with connections to Putin. And the "crime" was making weird troll-like memes. Stuff that happens on 4chan every day (but the 4chan memes are both ruder and funnier). So, kind of a pissant crime. Is that all ya' got, Mueller? Well, no, it turns out that isn't all he's got.

Indictment of Russians #2 (today's event) charges 12 GRU officers (Lt. to full Col.) with hacking the DNC, DCCC, and various campaign officials. It further charges them with creating "Guccifer 2.0" and some other personas, running various Twitter feeds to promote the leaks, setting up and running the "DCleaks" web site, and other stuff.

All of this is explained in detail. It seems extremely unlikely that this is all just made up. For instance the say the exact day that the named software tool was implanted into the computers at the DCCC, what it was used to do, who got spearished on what day, where the stolen files were transmitte to (a hosted computer in America) etc.

I think it's pretty hard to read and still claim that the Russians had nothing to do with hacking Podesta and the DNC. I won't be claiming that. YMMV: but I wonder if you've read it yet? INDICTMENT

We still can't tell what comes next.

We now know, there was indeed a Russian spy caper to get unflattering Hillary campaign emails and dump them into the campaign. The last giant leap remains. To tie the Trump campaign to the Russian GRU work.

If, as I believe and as Trump has always said: that never happened then the Tards are going to be so unhappy. They got pretty close: the Russian plot *is* now established, but it is the Russians, and their's alone.

It really is pretty implausible that Trump was controlling, paying, bribing, or working with GRU in anyway.

Maybe Mueller is wrapping it up. His one great trophy will be Manaforte. He can hold his head high at Georgetown swamp cocktail parties. He sent Trump's campaign manager to jail, and he "proved" via his indictments that the Russians were trying to help Trump get elected .

But Trump serves out his full term and probably wins a second, so the great dream is crushed.

Alternately: he has the proof that Team Trump was working directly with the GRU. In which case it's gonna get sporty in here.

234 posted on 07/13/2018 1:52:24 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Bob434

https://ijr.com/the-declaration/2017/08/944692-bombshell-report-dnc-hack-forensic-experts-claims-inside-job-not-russians


327 posted on 07/14/2018 9:29:08 PM PDT by Ambrosia (Born in NC, then PA, NY,WV, NM, SC, and FL & back God/Freedom=Priority!)
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