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Lawmakers worry about rise in drugged driving
The Hill ^ | 07/11/18 | Jasper Goodman

Posted on 07/11/2018 8:16:15 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

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To: KC_Conspirator

I’ll tell ya’, you haven’t lived until you’ve operated a 16,000 pound Backhoe after three martinis and two Ambiens.


21 posted on 07/11/2018 11:52:06 PM PDT by gigster (Cogito, Ergo, Ronaldus Magnus Conservatus)
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To: Rj Snows

And it cures *everything*.

/except stupidity


22 posted on 07/12/2018 1:32:44 AM PDT by Salamander (I ride all night and I travel in fear, that in this darkness, I will disappear...)
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To: KC_Conspirator

” but how can you tell if someone is baked? “

Give them a giant bag of Cheetos.


23 posted on 07/12/2018 3:34:33 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: yesthatjallen

Smart phone drugged driving.


24 posted on 07/12/2018 3:35:19 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (My "White Privilege" is my work ethic.)
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To: yesthatjallen

IIRC, not one single state has established a legal level for THC in drivers. But pot legalization marches on.


25 posted on 07/12/2018 3:55:34 AM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: mabarker1
it's good to be the kennedy...
26 posted on 07/12/2018 3:58:28 AM PDT by Chode ( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
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To: yesthatjallen
From 2014. And I don't recall Obama making an issue about it then...

Pot Fuels Surge in Drugged Driving Deaths

As medical marijuana sales expanded into 20 states, legal weed was detected in the bodies of dead drivers three times more often during 2010 when compared to those who died behind the wheel in 1999...

From 2014.

27 posted on 07/12/2018 4:00:56 AM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: yesthatjallen
From the last couple of days, Upstate NY...

Elmira man charged with DWAI for double fatal motorcycle accident

18 YO, and he's killed two people.

28 posted on 07/12/2018 4:22:16 AM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: KC_Conspirator

No test that can be done out on the road that I know of. But in an office, yes. I’m not a lawyer and would guess that some level of suspicion would be needed. Maybe a failed field sobriety test? (re. “touch your nose...” etc.) or someone driving 15 mph in a 70 and babbling nonsense during a car stop? It’s been done, though, and much. CO’s been raking in some revenues.


29 posted on 07/12/2018 4:28:27 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: yesthatjallen

Drugged driving among lawmakers?


30 posted on 07/12/2018 4:56:16 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has become my worst enema.)
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To: familyop
From last year. And apologies for the dource...

Everything You Need to Know About Marijuana Blood Tests

"Too stoned to drive"

SNORT.

31 posted on 07/12/2018 4:58:54 AM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: mewzilla

....source....


32 posted on 07/12/2018 4:59:12 AM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: mewzilla
And speaking of NYS, from January...

Seen At 11: Loophole Allows Motorists To Drive High In New York State — Legally

33 posted on 07/12/2018 5:03:57 AM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: yesthatjallen

There are quite a few prescribed non-controlled drugs that are sedating used for pain, neurological conditions that are sedating.

I know some police have used techniques such as trying to detect for nystagmus (involuntary eye movement while tracking an object) as justification for impaired driving. However, this really cannot be admissible evidence even if the officer is trained unless it is recorded. Improvements in recording techniques should make this possible.

The best thing to do is record the interaction on a traffic stop and let the jury decide (with consultation from experts) as to whether the driver was impaired.

We simply cannot trust, as sole or primary evidence, the witness and testimony of police officers.


34 posted on 07/12/2018 5:46:26 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Abolish administrative law. It's regressive, medieval and unconstitutional!)
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To: mabarker1

Kennedy = get out of jail free.


35 posted on 07/12/2018 6:07:18 AM PDT by wally_bert (Just call me Angelo or babe.)
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To: yesthatjallen

I too would question this statistic. Pot remains detectable in your system for about 30 days, far beyond any intoxication from same. That’s going to skew everything into meaninglessness.


36 posted on 07/12/2018 7:01:30 AM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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To: zeugma

Which is why I wouldn’t have a problem with zero tolerance. Want to drive? Don’t use it. Ditto for booze.


37 posted on 07/12/2018 7:04:48 AM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: Notthereyet

They knew, chose to ignore it. Just like they are Ignoring the Suicides of Chronic Pain Patients.


38 posted on 07/12/2018 7:16:25 AM PDT by GailA (Ret. SCPO Wife: suck it up buttercups it's President Donald Trump!)
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To: Notthereyet
data from the Governors Highway Safety Association (GHSA)

What the GHSA says (https://www.ghsa.org/sites/default/files/2017-07/GHSA_DruggedDriving2017_FINAL_revised.pdf:

Risk level Relative risk Drug category
Slightly increased risk 1-3 marijuana
Medium increased risk 2-10 benzodiazepines, cocaine, opioid
Highly increased risk 5-30 amphetamines, multiple drugs
Extremely increased risk 20-200 alcohol together with drugs

39 posted on 07/12/2018 8:57:31 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree
To complete the story, blood alcohol content of higher than 0.05 puts one in the medium increased risk cateogory, and higher than 0.08 in highly increased risk.
40 posted on 07/12/2018 9:09:10 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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