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To: Federal46

I think it didn’t matter who Clinton’s opposition was. They just wanted to sew chaos in America, at least that’s what the prevailing thought was after the Facebook inquiry.


10 posted on 07/04/2018 1:38:46 AM PDT by gattaca ("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." Ronald Reagan)
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To: gattaca

Yeah that could be as well but one thing I’m certain of it wasn’t beause they wanted to deal with Donald Trump as opposed to Hillary Clinton.


14 posted on 07/04/2018 1:44:28 AM PDT by Federal46 (federal 46)
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To: gattaca

From everything i’ve heard this was a low level operation of little significance. I’m sure all enemies and some allies probe our social media. The fantasy is that a Facebook page influenced an election as if it were the only news available. Imagine the enormity of media support for Hillary versus some obscure tweets.


23 posted on 07/04/2018 2:07:57 AM PDT by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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To: gattaca

“I think it didn’t matter who Clinton’s opposition was. They just wanted to sew chaos in America, at least that’s what the prevailing thought was after the Facebook inquiry.”


This. I don’t think that Russia really and truly believed that they could tip the election one way or the other. They could only affect things at the margins, and even then not so much. I am quite positive that if Russia had truly believed that it could affect the election in this country one way or the other, that they would never have supported Donald Trump.

What is interesting to point out to people, especially those who really and truly believe that Russia wanted Trump, is that Clinton should have actually been their preferred candidate. Why? Because Trump was promising during the campaign to do two things that would have the same effect on Russia presently as Ronald Reagan did in the 1980s, and which resulted in the destruction of the Soviet Union. Those things were to massively increase the production of oil and natural gas, and to massively increase spending on national defense.

During the 1980s, we could not massively increase energy production, but the Saudis could. Reagan and his CIA director, Bill Casey, arranged for us to guarantee the safety of the Saudi regime, and to sell them massive amounts of sophisticated weaponry, in return for them massively boosting oil production. The Saudis held to their end of the bargain, by increasing production from about two and a half million barrels a day to nearly 12 million barrels a day, all within six months. The effect of this on energy prices was quite predictable and dramatic, as oil fell to $8 a barrel at one point in 1986. This choked off the foreign currency earnings of the Soviet Union, which badly hurt their economy. Of course we all know about Reagan’s massive defense build up, but the flip side of that was that the Soviet Union was forced to do the same thing to try to stay even, when its economy couldn’t even afford the level of spending that they had before Reagan came into office.

So if the Russians actually believed that they could have a big impact Upon Our election, you have to ask yourself whether they were crazy, or whether it is the people in this country who are so desperately opposed to Donald Trump that they will believe ANYTHING, no matter how preposterous, if they believe that it would hurt him. Trump was, as mentioned supporting these policies, and has actually implemented them. Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, was promising to continue Obama’s policy of choking off further exploration for fossil fuels, and shutting down the coal industry altogether, and made no mention whatsoever of a large defense build up. On top of that, I could virtually guarantee that Vladimir Putin has a detailed file on the entire Uranium One matter sitting in his desk in the Kremlin. So if you’re Vladimir Putin and the Russian leadership, and you are faced with two candidates for the American presidency, one of whom is promising to implement policies that will destroy your nation’s economy, and the other of whom is promising the opposite and, as a bonus, you can blackmail that second candidate, which one of those two candidates would you support? One need not be a Nobel Prize winning theoretical physicist to figure that one out. However, it seems that about half of the people in this country have an IQ below 30 on this issue.


90 posted on 07/04/2018 7:50:56 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: gattaca

Just wonder why Trump supporters have to feel uncomfortable if it was true that Russians did prefer Trump over Hillary?


93 posted on 07/04/2018 8:01:47 AM PDT by granada
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