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Looking for signs of global warming? It's all around you
ABC "News" ^ | June 19, 2018 | By SETH BORENSTEIN, AP Science Writer

Posted on 06/19/2018 5:34:50 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: bgill

Last year a late freeze here in Eastern South Carolina destroyed my blueberry crop, where I normally pick fifteen to twenty gallons I had maybe a double handful. This year we had late freezes but the bushes stood up to them and I have some berries. It takes a really hard freeze to kill the blooms.


41 posted on 06/19/2018 6:55:06 AM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

You must be really old!


42 posted on 06/19/2018 7:02:33 AM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: N. Theknow

In other news, Floridians are selling their coastal homes at dirt cheap prices to escape the crisis.

They are, right? ;-)


43 posted on 06/19/2018 7:09:41 AM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: BitWielder1

“If I go out and look for signs of unicorns I’m sure I could find some.”

See comment #6.


44 posted on 06/19/2018 7:20:24 AM PDT by moovova
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To: moovova
See comment #6.
There it is! It's proof that Unicorns cause Global Warming!!!

45 posted on 06/19/2018 7:23:10 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
It would help climate alarmists to go back and re-study basic data analysis, and to review the textbook section on correlation vs. causation. It would also help if they actually applied their scientific knowledge instead of using it to generate propaganda.

One would hope a professor of biology would understand that many factors influence plant and animal behavior, and that there are short and long term cycles in plant and animal populations. And I would hope a person who claims to be a scientist would rigorously test their theories against reality.

How realistic is it to believe that a blueberry plant in Massachusetts reacts to a temperature at any other location than its immediate vicinity? Or perhaps at most the region that affects the pollinating insects it depends on. So if the blueberry plants at Walden pond are being affected by a change in temperature, the first question is what has changed in the micro-environment they live in?

The answer to that is probably related to the paved parking lot across the street, or maybe even the large cleared field with a solar power array right across route 126 from the pond.

Real data on blueberry maturation dates has been published by the Blue Hill Observatory, also in Massachusetts. That data shows how the maturation date varies widely on a year by year basis, and to the extent a correlation can be extracted reliably from that data, and the related temperature data, the rate of increase in temperature and the date of blueberry maturation aren't correlated.

As the Blue Hill Observatory data shows, the rate of temperature increase at the observatory is roughly the same since 1890 using the 30 year average. Blueberry maturation dates remained roughly the same through the 1970s, showing that rising temperatures don't necessarily even correlate with blueberry maturation dates. Of course, even deciding the date of blueberry maturation is likely to be hard to do accurately.

Looking at the Blue Hill Observatory data the greatest correlation is between the temperature change and the wind speed. Increasing temperature correlates to decreasing wind speed. That is the opposite of what climate change theory would predict, indicating that the wind speed change probably results from other factors. Like the change in forest cover in New England.

Of course we wouldn't expect a professor of biology to realize that the amount of forested land affects the plants and animals in an area would we?

Blue Hill Observatory Data Graphs

46 posted on 06/19/2018 7:23:27 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
When my 75 year old mom was a kid she would find praying mantises here in Iowa. When I was a kid I was really into spiders and snakes but there were absolutely no praying mantises here. That was 45 years ago. Now they have been back for some 10 years.

It's a cycle.

PS: The sun is a variable star with a 0.1 percent variation every 70 years.

47 posted on 06/19/2018 7:23:52 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (...the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“These days, plants and animals are arriving at Rocky Mountain Biological Lab a week or two earlier than they were 30 years ago.”

Maybe the bus schedule has changed?


48 posted on 06/19/2018 7:25:34 AM PDT by moovova
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Globull Warming is here. It’s 95in Myrtle Beach today. Oh wait it’s f’ing June.


49 posted on 06/19/2018 7:26:54 AM PDT by Hyman Roth
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To: Wuli
the dwindling population of polar bears of the Arctic

There are more polar bears now then there were in the 70.

I can not argue about the other but that is a stone cold fact.

50 posted on 06/19/2018 7:26:58 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Bunnies, bunnies, it must be bunnies!! Or maybe midgets....)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I’ve got a topographical map of Rhode Island and Narragansett Bay on my computer. Map was drawn in 1777 long before the industrial revolution, that started here. The salt water level in the bay hasn’t changed one inch in 241 years. When it does, I’ll start to worry.


51 posted on 06/19/2018 7:27:20 AM PDT by The Public Eye
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To: cgbg
In other news, Floridians are selling their coastal homes at dirt cheap prices to escape the crisis. They are, right? ;-)

Well, the coastal flooding COULD happen as soon as 2045.

I am in the mountain region of Central Florida, elevation nearly 200 feet above sea level, so I could have oceanfront property by the time I am 98 yrs. old.

52 posted on 06/19/2018 7:32:40 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: RipSawyer

Well, I DO have a long white beard.


53 posted on 06/19/2018 7:50:24 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Tenacious 1

Sorry, but you are mistaken. He was a world renowned physicist
My obersvations were accurate and his answer made sense.


54 posted on 06/19/2018 8:29:15 AM PDT by amihow
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To: bert
There is no argument that there is climate change resulting in some warming.

Of corse there is an argument against it, otherwise we wouldn't have all these Freepers reporting how much snow that had. There is ample reason to believe that much of the temperature data reported is just so much cr@p.

55 posted on 06/19/2018 8:47:01 AM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: IrishBrigade

Yes. But it is the only way to make the “mother nature” argument work against the climate alarmists. Their are use of “natural change and adaptation” as the “evolution” face of what we have on earth, should deny them, if they were honest, their alarmist attitudes about what nature will do in the face of climate change.


56 posted on 06/19/2018 8:59:46 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Night Hides Not

Thx ...


57 posted on 06/19/2018 9:30:37 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: robroys woman

I remember not long ago that it was colder. In the months since it has been getting warmer. The chart I have shows the temp from -30 to nearly +100 degrees.
At this rate we should self ignite by August.


58 posted on 06/19/2018 10:49:18 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Warmer weather is not a catastrophe. What's warmer are the winters.
Summer afternoons in much of the United States (East of the Rockies)
have enjoyed a cooling trend since the 19th century.

Here's what that looks like:

In a couple of days it will be 30 years since Dr. James Hansen
famously testified before the U.S. Congress about Global Warming.
It has been a triumph of propaganda for these last three decades;
a lot of people actually believe that warmer weather, more rain,
longer growing seasons, and CO2 augmented agriculture constitute
a looming catastrophic disaster.

59 posted on 06/20/2018 7:24:09 AM PDT by StACase (CO2 is NOT a Problem)
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