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Germany Emergency Talks
Deutsche Welle ^ | 17 June 2018 | Deutsche Welle

Posted on 06/17/2018 12:24:11 AM PDT by pepsionice

A special meeting on the EU migration crisis could take place as early as next weekend. Meanwhile, German Interior Minister Horst Seehofer has said no one is interested in "toppling the chancellor" over the issue.

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TOPICS: Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: germany
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The long and short of it. To prevent Seehofer's drastic changes on migration and immigration, Chancellor Merkel needs the EU to create some path ahead which discusses the handling of migration, how to distribute the crowd sitting in Greece and Italy, and the solution has to be strong enough to overcome her own Interior Minister.

At the heart of the matter is the Dublin Regulation which was signed in the 1990s and continually updated. It basically says....where you land or 'beach', as a migrant claiming asylum...that is where you sign the paperwork. You don't go around Europe looking for the best deal on benefits or asylum. Seehofer's intention is to enforce the EU agreement. For the Merkel coalition (the CDU, CSU and SPD)...it'll make it impossible to continue. There would have to be a fresh election, and Merkel's crowd (the CDU), along with the SPD...really don't want that to occur.

As for this emergency meeting? It's hard to say what solution they could dream up...which would be acceptable to all 28 EU members. So this is mostly to draw out the clock and not admit defeat until the end of July.

1 posted on 06/17/2018 12:24:12 AM PDT by pepsionice
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So she getting some opposition in her own country so she runs to the EU. Classy move, sure to sway her people...


2 posted on 06/17/2018 12:35:42 AM PDT by BBell (not drinking, just a smart a$$)
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I say the EU as we know it is living on borrowed time. Once Italy leaves and Merkel gets tossed, critical structural failure will quickly follow. Hungary and most of Eastern Europe seem ready to bolt as well.

It’s an unstable situation and getting unstabler.


3 posted on 06/17/2018 12:39:27 AM PDT by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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Soon it will be unstablerest.


4 posted on 06/17/2018 12:43:57 AM PDT by null and void (Have the courage to shine the light of reason in a dark world)
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I don’t think there is any stomach among the parties for a new election in Germany yet. The CDU and SPD both underperformed in the last election. They will punt this for the present.


5 posted on 06/17/2018 12:44:11 AM PDT by drop 50 and fire for effect ("Work relentlessly, accomplish much, remain in the background, and be more than you seem.")
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She basically needs the EU to shred the Dublin Agreement, so that her Interior Minister can’t use the signed document to base the German path ahead.

The Dublin Agreement says in plain language...where you land and claim asylum....is where the paperwork starts, and your process begins. You don’t walk out, travel a 1,000 kilometers, and cherry-pick your end-destination. This was signed off by Germany in the early 1990s by the Kohl government and seemed like a logical approach at the time.

If the EU were to play this Merkel game out....it leads onto campaign issues existing in the spring of 2019....as the EU representative election occurs in June 2019.

I think right now...most working-class Germans just shake their head. None of this migrant discussion came up in the September 2017 election process (avoided by the parties and the news media). As much as they hype the anti-Trump talk to thrill people....they’ve missed the ‘elephant’ standing in the living room. Merkel might be able to delay things for six weeks, but it’s hard to see how this ends in a positive way.


6 posted on 06/17/2018 12:51:48 AM PDT by pepsionice
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Merkel will give in to Seehofer to stay in power IMHO.


7 posted on 06/17/2018 12:53:09 AM PDT by GonzoII ("If the new crime be, to believe in God, let us all be criminals" -Sheen)
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To: drop 50 and fire for effect

On this lack of enthusiasm for a new election in Germany...you are absolutely correct. The political machine is against it.

I noticed today a polling done...the CDU is around 3 points less than in September’s election. The SPD is near 7 points less than in September’s election. From the remaining five other parties...three have a Merkel-like position on immigration and asylum. The CSU has some repairs in mind. The AfD crowd has a dramatic view and extreme measures to control immigration...but beyond that on other issues, there’s just not much to talk about (a one-issue party doesn’t typically get a lot of votes).

There’s talk of a new party appearing out of thin air (like the Macron effect).

Both the CDU and SPD would like Seehofer to just go away and disappear. But the Bavarian CSU party has anchored themselves to resolving the migration issue, and Seehofer selected the simplest process...just enforce the Dublin Agreement. It’s already on paper, for well over 25 years, and is a very simple text which people can understand. Dragging the EU into this? They’d basically have to shred their own agreement, in order to save Merkel. I don’t see that happening.


8 posted on 06/17/2018 1:00:21 AM PDT by pepsionice
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Only the Germans could produce an improbable black-red political coalition.


9 posted on 06/17/2018 1:00:24 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A n Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever n)
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Merkel might, but the SPD Party coalition deal won’t survive it. Within their voting mechanism to enter the coalition...it was not exactly a firm ‘we agree’ vote. Well over one-third of the SPD membership did not want the coalition. There’s a fair amount of long-term damage done to the SPD Party in this process. A large segment of the SPD ‘machine’ wants the open-door migration process to continue...as is.


10 posted on 06/17/2018 1:05:04 AM PDT by pepsionice
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Once Italy leaves and Merkel gets tossed, critical structural failure will quickly follow

I would think if Italy left, the economy in the EU would improve. Kind of like if we got rid of Puerto Rico. Or El Paso.

11 posted on 06/17/2018 1:55:31 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (President Trump divides Americans . . . from anti-Americans.)
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Kick her fat country destroying ass out ... Schnell!!!


12 posted on 06/17/2018 2:31:37 AM PDT by toddausauras (Trump 2016)
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“So this is mostly to draw out the clock and not admit defeat until the end of July.”

What happens at the end of July?


13 posted on 06/17/2018 3:01:48 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: pepsionice

Her time is done, she let the Muslim Trojan Horse to within the city/country limits and the gig is up.


14 posted on 06/17/2018 4:19:21 AM PDT by Netz ( and looking for a way ti IMPROVE mankind.)
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Her time is done, she let the Muslim Trojan Horse to within the city/country limits and the gig is up.


15 posted on 06/17/2018 4:19:22 AM PDT by Netz ( and looking for a way ti IMPROVE mankind.)
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To: Ken H

They are finally realizing that they’ve given up their sovereignty.


16 posted on 06/17/2018 4:19:29 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: pepsionice

Bumdestag ain’t going anywhere.


17 posted on 06/17/2018 4:43:50 AM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: BeauBo

That’s far enough along, that if you called for a new election....it’d have to occur after the September state elections in Bavaria and Hessen. Would be more beneficial for the CDU/CSU folks. I would be guessing late Oct to mid Nov, if you delay it enough.


18 posted on 06/17/2018 4:51:37 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: goldstategop

Its just the Establishment Party. Y’know....the Republicrats. We’ve seen it too.


19 posted on 06/17/2018 5:26:56 AM PDT by FLT-bird (..)
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In the past, Seehofer has huffed and puffed and achieved minor results before coming around to supporting Merkel. I suspect it is for show, as he is trying to fight off AfD on his right.


20 posted on 06/17/2018 5:52:27 AM PDT by Stingray51
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