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Law Enforcement Think Tank Gives 9 Key Recommendations On How To Prevent 'Gun Violence'
Town hall ^ | 6/10/18 | beth baumann

Posted on 06/11/2018 4:38:06 AM PDT by from occupied ga

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To: from occupied ga

Did I miss the call for vigorous prosecution of criminals? Once again the government has come up with ideas to affect the common man, not necessarily criminals, and ensure that citizens are outgunned by the police/government.

In my opinion, Obama and his cohorts initiated a silent coup that would end in a loss of all personal freedoms. Look at Venezuela and ask, could this happen in the United States with a well armed citizenry?


41 posted on 06/11/2018 5:55:51 AM PDT by Boomer One ( ToUsesn)
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To: Paladin2

The fact it has not been released should tell us something.


42 posted on 06/11/2018 5:56:28 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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According to PERF’s website, general membership in the group is exclusive to “the executive head of a municipal, county or state-funded agency that provides general police services. The agency must have at least 100 full-time employees, or serve a population of 50,000 or more people.”


Essentially urban police chiefs. Very political. Not accountable to the people.


43 posted on 06/11/2018 5:56:40 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: CodeToad

See my tag line


44 posted on 06/11/2018 6:00:46 AM PDT by Noumenon (When all liberals have is a hammer, every problem is a nail in YOUR coffin.)
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To: Road Warrior ‘04

It seems that way to me too, but it’s probably just that, as a gun guy, the only cops I’m around are ‘gun guys’.


45 posted on 06/11/2018 6:01:06 AM PDT by nobamanomore
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To: jiggyboy

I only have one item on my list.

1. Never let the people who compiled this list ever be in charge of anybody or anything.

JoMa


46 posted on 06/11/2018 6:06:53 AM PDT by joma89
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To: from occupied ga

https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn-williams-jr/340-sheriffs-refuse-enforce-unconstitutional-gun-control-laws

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/12/16/us/sheriffs-refuse-to-enforce-laws-on-gun-control.html

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/no-sheriff-town-some-lawmen-refuse-enforce-federal-gun-laws-n185426

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/true-crime/wp/2016/04/28/national-group-of-sheriffs-opposed-to-federal-government-overreach-gains-size-momentum/?noredirect=on

https://www.rt.com/usa/sheriffs-refuse-enforce-gun-laws-329/


47 posted on 06/11/2018 6:07:53 AM PDT by TexasGurl24
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To: from occupied ga
A few cases of ineffective over-reach:

- Requiring background checks for all private sales and transfers.

No indication this would have stopped any of the mass shootings. The straw purchases in the Columbine shootings were already prohibited by law and did not stop the transfer.

- Safe storage laws make the weapons useless for self-defense.

- Red Flag orders would quickly be abused as the new "SWATing" technique.

- Magazine limits are unenforcible nonsense due to current widespread availability and the speed at which magazines can be changed.

Did I mention that the phrase "high-powered firearms" is completely misused? The assault weapons ban is completely bogus and not implementable.

- The "black market" meme is code for licensing of all guns.

48 posted on 06/11/2018 6:18:48 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: TexasGurl24

To be effective EVERY police jurisdiction would have to refuse to enforce the anti-gun (anti-freedom) laws. A few sheriffs nationwide is a good thing, but you can’t count on it. I reiterate the police are NOT your friends.


49 posted on 06/11/2018 6:27:58 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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While the recommendations will appear to the sheeple to be directed at “gun violence” they are all directed at one type of gun violence (mostly one-on-one acts) and not the type that gets the public so interested in “gun control” - “mass shootings”. And the “recommendations” have nothing to offer about identifying the mentally unbalanced possible mass shooter and keeping guns out of their hands. In almost every “mass shooting” case, none of the recommendations would have prevented them; their weapons were legally obtained and legal for them to obtain.


50 posted on 06/11/2018 6:37:54 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: from occupied ga
It took them until #6 to slip in a blatant gun-grab.

To hell with them; they're enemies of the Constitution.

"... against all enemies, foreign and domestic ..."

51 posted on 06/11/2018 6:39:50 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: G Larry
A few cases of ineffective over-reach:

I think we all know that there isn't the slightest intent by anti-gunners to stop school shootings. The Schumers and Bloombergs of the world are not stupid nor are they "misguided." They are evil. They are well aware that their wish list of infringements won't have the slightest effect on real crime. of In fact they want more massacres so they can bath in the blood of innocents to push their real agenda - total citizen disarmament.

Once that's accomplished there will be no constraints on their power and they intend to wield it to control our every action. Hate speech - anything they don't want you to say. Transportation - public, stay home or pay a fortune in taxes for fuel. Housing - get rid of the suburbs and move everyone into apartments in the cities. We've all heard all of these proposed as serious initiatives by the left.

52 posted on 06/11/2018 6:45:25 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Road Warrior ‘04

Most street cops do support the 2nd Amendment. It is the political, ego driven heads of agencies that put out crap like this, usually with some liberal consultant complicit.

The worst is always the head of a city or municipality. Those chiefs are appointed by the city council or city manager. They do not answer to the citizens, unlike Sheriffs. There time in office is tenuous, at best.

Where you have a liberal bastion, like Tucson AZ, you will have a liberal sheriff voted in.


53 posted on 06/11/2018 6:51:53 AM PDT by Glennb51
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To: from occupied ga

“6. Reducing the carnage: Limit the availability of high-powered firearms.”

Like 375 HH magnum, 458 winchester etc? Surely you don’t mean varmint rounds like 223?


54 posted on 06/11/2018 6:54:08 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: from occupied ga

Yep!

What’s the status of the National “Red Flag” bill that has bipartisan sponsorship?


55 posted on 06/11/2018 6:55:22 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: Road Warrior ‘04

“The Police Executive Research Forum (PERF), a Washington-based think tank, “

Just one of a zillion beltway bandits that suck off the taxpayers’ teats. Utterly useless peckerheads with a fancy name.


56 posted on 06/11/2018 6:57:12 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: from occupied ga

Police chiefs are the sock puppets of their political masters. Always have been.

The one thing which will reduce homicides, is more incarceration of chronic criminals. Most homicides are done by people with prior criminal records.

We could do much more to reduce crime, by eliminating all welfare programs which provide incentives for women to have kids without responsible fathers.


57 posted on 06/11/2018 7:01:16 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Clap for the wolfman)
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To: from occupied ga
These police and their hacks simply want to be in control with power over everyone else. They forget they serve the people, are our employees, not our rulers. They seem to think they are above the law, want laws to give them more powers over the people irregardless of what the constitution says.

Most gun violence is from a few select counties and cities. Fix them.

Recognize that civilian, CCW gun owners have lower rate of crime than the police. Process that.

Accept that an armed citizen can protect themselves, not wait 8-10 minutes for police to show up and monitor (being nice this morning).

58 posted on 06/11/2018 7:02:50 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: from occupied ga
They must have forgotten, arm the police with machine guns, grenade launchers, military armored vehicles, military drones, CIA electronic surveillance equipment. Military clothing and training. And last but not least make sure there is no accountability in the case of abuse of power. Oh I forgot we've already done all this so scratch it all off the list.

The police need to be disarmed of all military weapons, equipment and tactics. The police should wear blue and only blue. The police should be addressed only as "Peace officer" and act accordingly. No knock warrants should be jail sentences for any judge that issues one. The police should be accountable for any and all abuse of power. Yes I think the citizens need to have their own list on how to make the police safer.

59 posted on 06/11/2018 7:08:40 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: Reno89519
They forget they serve the people, are our employees, not our rulers. They seem to think they are above the law, want laws to give them more powers over the people irregardless of what the constitution says.

Which is part of the genius of the Bill of Rights. It's the nature of governments (and by that I mean the bureaucrats and politicians that make up government) to always want more. They are NEVER satisfied, and the NEVER get enough.

Look at Australia. The smug sanctimonious Australians proudly touted their helpless disarmed status. So now what does their government want? Get rid of cash transactions and criminally punish anyone who publically dissents. And that's just the beginning fools(and by fools I mean Australians and anyone who wants gun control here).

There are two types of people. Those who want to be left alone and leave others alone, and those who know what's best for everyone and want to inflict their lame ideas on everyone else. Guess which ones go into government.

60 posted on 06/11/2018 7:28:17 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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