Posted on 06/06/2018 7:22:53 AM PDT by Kaslin
Doubtful.
I saw the headline, “Can State Force Painter to Promote Satan?” and asked myself, “How can he be promoted? He’s already running his place.”
Anton LeVey. What a POS he was.
Perhaps they can force him to paint, but they can’t make him do a good job, nor can they tell him how fast to paint...
(Adapted from an old Navy saying about chipping paint)
I agree with every point but one. They cannot force him/her to paint. They can jail, torture, fine, destroy, whatever they want.
But they cannot force that hand to paint.
It has nothing to do with religion or faith. It is a matter of freedom PERIOD. A person has the right to choose whom he will associate and with whom he will trade. There is also the issue of property rights. People have the right to control their property whether it be bake shops and ovens or paint brushes.
Not many conservatives or Christians will dare stand up for these fundamental rights. Good luck with trying to defend the right to practice one’s religion when all the other rights have been denied.
“You cannot conquer a free man. The most you can do is kill him.”
Heinlein
Perhaps.
The real issue is why do these people select someone who hates them to make their food and paint their stuff?
Surely there is a willing baker or a willing painter within 100 miles?
Isn’t there an illegal alien willing to do a job Americans won’t do?
The NO SMOKING really ran over that private property idea pretty hard.
The negatives of that law outweigh the positives a hundred to one.
Power, prestige and being the slaver.
They feel they are already powerful, now they want to feel like little tin gods.
Yep, we fought a very bloody war to end slavery once. We can do it again.
I disagree, there are plenty of Christians and conservatives who will stand up for those fundamental rights.
These people on pick on people in areas where they have control and they pick on people they think will back down.
That is why they never ask muslims to do these things.
In an eternal sense Jesus has already won the war but as we walk on a planet ruled by Satan, we should expect these attacks to increase as the end draws near.
I suppose a painter could just say “I’m too busy” or “I don’t want to do it” without specifying a reason.
A liberal ad agency or law firm can refuse a job for a client whose line of work it opposes, such as a tobacco company, and an entertainer can refuse a gig for an organization whose ideology it opposes. A Christian business person should have the same right to refuse business for purposes it has moral objections to.
Seems like they might not be able to force him to charge a reasonable price, which should get him off the hook. ??
“The court’s precedents make clear that the baker, in his capacity as the owner of a business serving the public, might have his right to the free exercise of religion limited by generally applicable laws.”
Kennedy is a putz. From my non-lawyer understanding those generally applicable laws must show a compelling state interest and that interest is also weighed against the burden they place on the religious expression of the individual. The burden of proof is on the government in these matters. Kennedy writes as though it is on the individual. A Putz and again a Putz.
So does the State have a compelling interest to make sure that protected groups are granted participation in all business transactions? Or is any refusal to offer goods and services discrimination? Can the State force people to enter into a contract? Does a business have to make sure a certain percentage of its transactions are with protected groups? I mean why not? Surely a business should have to prove it does not discriminate. What about promotion of Pride events? Must all businesses participate? Why not? Such a public sin as antiquated religious beliefs must require public atonement. We should have nailed the closet door shut.
That too!
Black doesn’t show dirt. Just sayin’.
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