Posted on 05/30/2018 12:38:23 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
The “thousands of Clinton’s emails” story told by GEORGE PAPADOPOULOS, which is critical to “Trump/Russia collusion”, still doesn’t add up.
ALEXANDER DOWNER just blew a major hole in it.
And: I think Special Counsel Robert Mueller has known this for months too.
THREAD
In this thread I’m going to show you three NEW pieces of info:
1: First relevant interview with ALEXANDER DOWNER (H/T @ChuckRossDC)
2: A new analysis of @RepAdamSchiff Feb 2018 memo in light of that interview
3: A new, not yet reported Jan 2018 interview with JOSEPH MIFSUD
This will be controversial, so I’m going to keep this thread as factual as possible with clear references to source material that you can check
I want to lay out three possibilities for you....
POSSIBILITY 1: PAPADOPOULOS is being truthful, but very little else fits this
POSSIBILITY 2: He may be still committing perjury to the FBI & Special Counsel, violating his plea deal
POSSIBILITY 3: The Special Counsel is ALLOWING him to perjure himself, to keep “collusion” alive What I intend to show is that one of the pillars of the Trump-Russia “collusion” theory is wobbly to the point of collapse – PAPADOPOULOS seems never to have mentioned “Clinton-related emails” or “dirt” to ANYONE before his Jan 27 2017 interview with the FBI He didn’t make a “startling revelation” to ALEXANDER DOWNER in a “drunken” conversation in London, like the @nytimes announced to the world (a @benjaminwittes 'BOOM' moment)
And the person who is supposed to have told him about “emails” and ”dirt”– JOSEPH MIFSUD – denies he ever told him anything
(Excerpt) Read more at threadreaderapp.com ...
Read the whole thread, it's very interesting:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1001866516067946498.html
His summary:
SUMMARY
The only people we know for sure PAPADOPOULOS told about Russia having “thousands of emails” are the FBI & SC Mueller
The only proof MIFSUD is a Russian cutout is that PAPADOPOULOS implies it
Almost nothing factual backs this up, not DOWNER, not even @RepAdamSchiff
But: MIFSUD has to be a Russian agent or cutout AND he has to be the one to tell PAPADOPOULOS about the hacked emails before they are released
Otherwise, if those aren't true? “Trump/Russia Collusion” is over
The real story of PAPADOPOULOS' is that important
/ENDS
An eye-opening revelation from the thread is that Judge Andrew Napolitano on the very day BEFORE Papadopoulos told AUS Ambassador Downer about Russia having damaging info on Hillary (and who doesn't?), said on Fox News that Russia had 20,000 Hillary emails and was trying to decide what to do with them.
My own speculation: They had Papadopoulos' comms from very early on. Probably GCHQ or someone peeking at the NSA upstream data capture and searching Papadop. And they found a golden nugget: something on Papadop, such as that he likes nose candy, or cut corners on a visa application, or who knows what, but something they could hold over his head. And to satisfy the anti-Trump DOJ/FBI team because of the threat they had over him, Papadop created for them the story of Mifsud the supposed Russian agent spilling the beans about Russian hacking, and giving DOJ/FBI another hook for the "insurance policy" to take Trump down.
This reminds me, did Guiliani fall off the fact of the earth? He disappeared quicker that the recent story about the armed good guy killing the Restaurant bad guy shooter.
Someone on Fox News talked about AN ATTEMPT TO 'HONEY TRAP' PAPADAPOULOS with a woman that some man left at the table with him, allegedly for her to go to a hotel room with him.
Can anyone verify this, and WHO was the man who attempted to 'honey trap' Papadapoulos and who was the 'honey trap'?
Something in this puzzle is out of place and Papa is No. 1 on my list.
Was Papa one of the FBI's moles?? I think so.
A few questions for Special Counsel Mueller.
S/C Investigations normally pursue a crime.
<><> What crime are you investigating?
<><> Your job description centered on Russian collusion, what statute in the US code would you use to prosecute collusion?
<><> Your investigative team is composed of highly partisan supporters of Hillary Clinton? Did you seek out independent, non-partisan lawyers?
<><> Russia expert, Fanny Ohr, wife of demoted DOJ official Bruce Ohr, who worked for Fusion GPS on the Steele dossier acquired a short-wave radio license about that time? Did the FBI monitor any of Ohr’s electronic communications?
<><> 2016 candidate Hillary Clinton as Secy of State, removed boxes of official documents and destroyed more than 30,000 official emails. Did you know about this?
<><> What was the Loretta Lynch and Bill Clinton meeting about, aside from the usual pleasantries?
<><> The FBI sought to identify and discipline the agent who made the Lynch-Clinton meeting public. Is that offiial FBI policy.
<><> Former CIA boss John Brennan is making angry statements about Pres Donald Trump. Would you have hired him at the FBI? If so, in what capacity?
<><> When reporters asked you if the FBI had dropped the ball by failing to act, you said, “No. I think, given the context of the discussions and the situation that the agents and the analysts were looking at, they took appropriate steps.”
<><> Any second thoughts on that?
<><> Given the time and money you have put in, does the the absence of any crime or collusion trouble you?
<><> Are Democrats disappointed in you?
<><> If so, how have they acted against you?
<><> Did you resent it when Cong Schiff who based has his political career on your finding Russian collision called yu a little ****?
A couple of key dates to keep in mind:
April 18, 2016: Admiral Mike Rogers, the head of NSA, shut down all outside contractor access to raw NSA FISA data.
Why? An audit ordered by him revealed that outside contractors had unfettered and untraceable access to the NSA tools to search FISA data, and the NSA had not to date been able to develop monitoring query compliance controls. NSA auditors were unable to tell who was doing the searching or what was being searched in the database.
March 21, 1986: After taking a lot of heat from the MSM for not having revealed who was advising him on foreign olicy, Candidate Donald J. Trump announces a team of five little-known foreign policy advisors, including Carter Page and George Papadopoulos. (It appears the team was assembled in haste by Sam Clovis to take the heat off from the press.)
DOES ANYONE BELIEVE THAT THE ‘OUTSIDE CONTRACTORS’ WITH UNTRACEABLE ACCESS TO THE NSA DATABASE UNTIL APRIL 18, 2016 DID NOT SEARCH THIS DATA STREAM FOR ANY AND ALL COMMS AND ANY DIRT ON CARTER PAGE AND GEORGE PAPADOPOULOS?
typo: March 21, 1986 should be March 21, 2016
I agree. Somewhat twisted, but the FBI attempted to 'honey trap' him and might have been successful. Papadapoulos was a PLANT to be honey-trapped. The FBI set out to create an entire situation that they believed could remove Trump from office.
The $64 million question is:
If the DOJ/FBI/CIA/etc. believed Trump was colluding with Russia, why do they NOW try and tell us they used informants in order to HELP Trump? BOTH of these narratives CANNOT be true!
Video of Hannigan and Rogers walking around Bletchley.
8 Feb 2016: BBC: How the British and Americans started listening in
By Gordon Corera
A secret visit to Bletchley Park 75 years ago gave birth to an alliance between two British and US intelligence agencies which continues today...
To mark the anniversary of that visit, the two directors of the intelligence agencies which grew out of wartime are meeting at Bletchley. Admiral Mike Rogers from America’s National Security Agency (NSA) and Robert Hannigan, of Britain’s GCHQ, are striding up the same path Sinkov and his team walked...
“It was the birth of an incredibly close relationship,” says Hannigan. “It was a leap of trust.”...
Critics fear that the close co-operation could allow them to circumvent controls over what they can do. That is something the agencies themselves have always denied, but intense secrecy normally surrounds their joint work.
The two modern-day directors have little doubt about the importance of the wartime alliance persisting.
“Each of us consider the other the strongest partner we have in the world and realise we are facing a global set of challenges and I think it takes each of us together to generate benefit for each of us,” says Admiral Rogers.
“No one can face this alone, and there is no closer relationship than we have and it is the rock of our security,” argues Hannigan...
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35491822
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