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To: arrogantsob
You don’t seriously believe that children of military and diplomatic personnel are ineligible to be president.

It doesn't matter what I believe, it matters what the Constitution says. Any constitutional scholars out there?

30 posted on 05/21/2018 9:52:06 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (President Trump divides Americans . . . from anti-Americans.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

One of our military bases located anywhere in the world is considered to be American territory.


68 posted on 05/22/2018 1:26:52 AM PDT by billyboy15
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To: Jeff Chandler

While I certainly can’t claim to be a constitutional scholar I did study the matter extensively for close to two years before, during and after the election of 2008. What people in this day just can’t seem to grasp is that “natural born citizen” is a qualification for President, and only that. It has no bearing upon anyone else. Every citizen is the same legally speaking other than being elected President.

The qualification is that a President cannot be subject to any other jurisdiction, and this occurs as a result of circumstances of birth. If you’re born in the US with both citizen parents being citizens, then ipso facto you are a natural born citizen, there is no possibility whatsoever of there being another jurisdiction with a plausible claim upon you as far as legal control.

If you’re born to a parent or parents who are not citizens, then the possibility exists of being subject to another jurisdiction, since some countries bestow citizenship, i.e. legal obligation and control, based upon birth to their citizens, legally termed jus sanguinis, by blood. Other countries bestow citizenship not on the basis of citizen parents but on the basis of birth in their country, so-called jus soli, law of the soil. If an individual with a non-US citizen parent is born in the US and that parent is a citizen of a jus soli country, then there is no jurisdiction from that country and so that child is natural born.

The same applies to foreign births. For those born in jus soli countries, law of the soil, they claimed you as a citizen as a result of your being born there. You are not a natural born citizen because you are subject to a jurisdiction other than the United States. The Founders did not want the President to be legally bound by any law other than US law. That’s all it means, that’s all it can mean.

As far as inventing some sort of magical US territory wherever we have military bases, that just is not so. If the military base is in a jus sanguinis country, law of the blood, then there was no claim of jurisdiction upon any children born there and they’re still natural born despite having been born outside of the country.

Conversely, if a child is born abroad due to a parent or parents being deployed militarily by the US and the child is born in a jus soli country, law of the soil, then there was a claim of jurisdiction in the form of citizenship upon that child, who is not natural born. Military service does not change the law.

What all this boils down to is that Barack Obama was ineligible and he admitted as much right up front, saying he was born subject to the UK. That was intentional, no one can ever claim he attempted to deceive his way into the Presidency. The deception was done by legions of others, always at arm’s length from Obama.

John McCain was not eligible, either. Depending upon the laws of Canada, it’s quite possible that Ted Cruz isn’t eligible.

I also believe it’s no accident that such a strange wave of ineligible canidates have been running for President over the past decade. That requirement throws a major monkey wrench into the plans of globalists and internationalists.

So, there you have it. Argue opinion all you want, opinion doesn’t matter at all. All that matters is the law, and which law a given individual is subject to as far as attaining the office of President.


157 posted on 05/22/2018 3:00:44 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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