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Whoa! Michael Caputo Drops Second Trump Campaign ĎAgent Provocateurí Bombshell During Interview
The Conservative Treehouse ^

Posted on 05/21/2018 9:18:43 PM PDT by Bigtigermike

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To: octex

His father’s assignment was in The Canal Zone which was a small base of operations located in Panama. The military was not housed in the zone, they were quartered outside of the zone if accompanied by dependents. Being born there does not make him a Panamanian citizen by birth.

I served with several officers whose fathers were also military members when they were born. They were born in France as their parents were assigned to a NATO operation. There was NO base or base housing. They were born at a local hospital. Their parents were American citizens and they were born as full up American citizens who are eligible to run for President if they wanted to.

Yeah, he’s a shitbag, but he is a domestic American citizen shitbag.

This again, is nitwit logic.


141 posted on 05/22/2018 9:53:40 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Lurker

The term, “Full American citizen” is not the same as the term, “natural born citizen.”

Looking for clarity, not argument.


142 posted on 05/22/2018 9:55:26 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (President Trump divides Americans . . . from anti-Americans.)
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To: Windflier
It was very brave of Michael Caputo to reveal that information on national television.

I think it's his way of lessening the chances that he has an "accident".

143 posted on 05/22/2018 9:59:26 AM PDT by Stentor
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To: taterjay
That would be good if Ole Bernie is now digging to see who was infiltrating his campaign.

Well, not to mention that Crazy Bernie had a mole in the Hillary camp....who then got killed for his efforts.

144 posted on 05/22/2018 10:13:41 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (The Obama is about to hit the fan.)
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To: WaterWeWaitinFor

Then there’s Muzzie Huma.


145 posted on 05/22/2018 10:34:46 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Joe 6-pack

Natural born Citizens are those born to citizen parents on U.S. soil. Those that do not meet that requirement become citizens by positive law...IOW, they’re naturalized and not eligible to become POTUS.

Next.


146 posted on 05/22/2018 10:47:12 AM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Jeff Sessions IS the insurance policy)
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To: RJS1950

BINGO


147 posted on 05/22/2018 10:48:54 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ( Christian is as Christian does mt-h)
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To: healy61
Bernie Sanders can’t possible think he got a pass? He ain’t that dumb.

Absolutely true. Gotta wonder if that is even being looked at.

148 posted on 05/22/2018 11:16:27 AM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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To: Stentor
I think it's his way of lessening the chances that he has an "accident".

Good point.

149 posted on 05/22/2018 11:32:55 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

As odious as he is John McCain was born on a US Military base which was located on a US Possession. To wit, the Panama Canal. That makes him a natural born citizen of the United States just as any child of a US diplomat would be even if the birth occurred in Outer Slombovistan.

And apparently any further conversation with you on this subject would be akin to trying to teach a pig to sing.

Good luck in all your future endeavors. I feel you’ll need it.

L


150 posted on 05/22/2018 11:32:59 AM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: Lurker
That makes him a natural born citizen of the United States

That's your opinion, one not universally shared by the legal community.

My opinion? I'll leave it to the lawyers.

151 posted on 05/22/2018 11:41:08 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (President Trump divides Americans . . . from anti-Americans.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

“My opinion? I’ll leave it to the lawyers.”

I suggest you hire one and sue to have all those Bills Obama signed into Law. As someone directly affected you’d have standing.

Find one of those lawyers and file suit. Do be sure to let us know how it goes.

L


152 posted on 05/22/2018 11:44:22 AM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: Lurker

I apologize if I upset you. I wasn’t trying to be provocative, just clarifying definitions.

-J


153 posted on 05/22/2018 11:51:31 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (President Trump divides Americans . . . from anti-Americans.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Good Point. Just where is old Huma these days.

PIAPS was at that graduation ceremony. Was Huma along fir the ride as usual?

From the “shared” Weiner / Huma computer, to whom did she write to or to whom did she forward hundreds of e-mails for Hillary or for herself?

HHHHmmmm ??


154 posted on 05/22/2018 11:52:46 AM PDT by WaterWeWaitinFor ("We will be one people under one God, saluting one American flag". DJT 9/12/16)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Not upset in the least. Just tired of people who whine on and on endlessly about the “natural born citizen” foolishness and then refuse to actually do anything.

L


155 posted on 05/22/2018 12:33:56 PM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: wastoute

Thanks.


156 posted on 05/22/2018 2:35:47 PM PDT by stylin19a (Best.Election.of.All-Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever)
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To: Jeff Chandler

While I certainly can’t claim to be a constitutional scholar I did study the matter extensively for close to two years before, during and after the election of 2008. What people in this day just can’t seem to grasp is that “natural born citizen” is a qualification for President, and only that. It has no bearing upon anyone else. Every citizen is the same legally speaking other than being elected President.

The qualification is that a President cannot be subject to any other jurisdiction, and this occurs as a result of circumstances of birth. If you’re born in the US with both citizen parents being citizens, then ipso facto you are a natural born citizen, there is no possibility whatsoever of there being another jurisdiction with a plausible claim upon you as far as legal control.

If you’re born to a parent or parents who are not citizens, then the possibility exists of being subject to another jurisdiction, since some countries bestow citizenship, i.e. legal obligation and control, based upon birth to their citizens, legally termed jus sanguinis, by blood. Other countries bestow citizenship not on the basis of citizen parents but on the basis of birth in their country, so-called jus soli, law of the soil. If an individual with a non-US citizen parent is born in the US and that parent is a citizen of a jus soli country, then there is no jurisdiction from that country and so that child is natural born.

The same applies to foreign births. For those born in jus soli countries, law of the soil, they claimed you as a citizen as a result of your being born there. You are not a natural born citizen because you are subject to a jurisdiction other than the United States. The Founders did not want the President to be legally bound by any law other than US law. That’s all it means, that’s all it can mean.

As far as inventing some sort of magical US territory wherever we have military bases, that just is not so. If the military base is in a jus sanguinis country, law of the blood, then there was no claim of jurisdiction upon any children born there and they’re still natural born despite having been born outside of the country.

Conversely, if a child is born abroad due to a parent or parents being deployed militarily by the US and the child is born in a jus soli country, law of the soil, then there was a claim of jurisdiction in the form of citizenship upon that child, who is not natural born. Military service does not change the law.

What all this boils down to is that Barack Obama was ineligible and he admitted as much right up front, saying he was born subject to the UK. That was intentional, no one can ever claim he attempted to deceive his way into the Presidency. The deception was done by legions of others, always at arm’s length from Obama.

John McCain was not eligible, either. Depending upon the laws of Canada, it’s quite possible that Ted Cruz isn’t eligible.

I also believe it’s no accident that such a strange wave of ineligible canidates have been running for President over the past decade. That requirement throws a major monkey wrench into the plans of globalists and internationalists.

So, there you have it. Argue opinion all you want, opinion doesn’t matter at all. All that matters is the law, and which law a given individual is subject to as far as attaining the office of President.


157 posted on 05/22/2018 3:00:44 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

Thank you for the clarification.


158 posted on 05/22/2018 3:33:59 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (President Trump divides Americans . . . from anti-Americans.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

As an example, no child born in the US to a Mexican citizen parent can be natural born, because Mexico is a jus sanguinis country and they claim that child as their citizen no matter where they’re born. They even encourage these US-born Mexican citizens to vote in Mexican elections and to act in a manner favorable to Mexico while in the US.


159 posted on 05/22/2018 4:41:00 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: deks

Wow! Thanks for that. So, juuuust a couple weeks before that remarkable election day in November. Love it!


160 posted on 05/23/2018 6:54:50 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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