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Yeah, what's Putin going to do about it anyways.
1 posted on 05/20/2018 4:54:33 AM PDT by McGruff
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Another article by the same guy.

I got played by Russian intelligence
by Tom Rogan May 18, 2018

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/i-got-played-by-russian-intelligence

No wonder he has a bad case of butt hurt.


2 posted on 05/20/2018 4:58:26 AM PDT by McGruff (MAGA)
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You really love that KGB POS.

You are aware that everyone on the Trump team sees him as an enemy, not to be trusted. It’s obvious that your loyalty lies with Putin and Russia over team Trump and the US.


3 posted on 05/20/2018 5:00:33 AM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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Donald Trump: ‘Putin has eaten Obama’s lunch, therefore our lunch, for a long period of time’

Mar 13, 2014
Eun Kyung Kim: TODAY SHOW (NBC)

Donald Trump slammed President Obama Thursday on TODAY for failing to take a stronger line against President Vladimir Putin in dealing with Ukraine, saying he feared Obama would now make up for lost time with imprudent moves to “show his manhood.”

The real estate mogul and reality-TV star, who has criticized Putin for sending military troops into Crimea, said Obama must now take fierce steps to prevent the situation from escalating further.

“We should definitely do sanctions and we have to show some strengths. I mean, Putin has eaten Obama’s lunch, therefore our lunch, for a long period of time,” Trump said. ...”

http://www.today.com/news/donald-trump-putin-has-eaten-obamas-lunch-ukraine-2D79372098
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Here’s the interview w/ Matt Lauer on YouTube...

Donald Trump (2014): ‘Vladimir Putin Has Eaten Obama’s Lunch’:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzURUENf1ns
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JULY 2017...

Trump, in Warsaw Speech, Criticizes Russia’s ‘Destabilizing’ Role in Ukraine, Syria

The president also reaffirmed his commitment to NATO’s mutual-defense pact

Jul 6, 2017

President Trump called Russia a “destabilizing” influence in Europe and the Middle East, and urged it to “join the community of responsible nations,” in his strongest remarks yet against the regime of Vladimir Putin, whom he is scheduled to meet Friday in Hamburg for the first time.

His remarks in Warsaw’s Krasinski Square, which marks the 1944 Warsaw uprising against the Nazis, came after the U.S. agreed to sell Patriot missiles to Poland. The president also used the opportunity to reiterate the NATO commitment to mutual defense, a declaration he did not make during the NATO summit in May, prompting consternation among U.S. allies wary of Russia’s ambitions.

“To those who would criticize our tough stance, I would point out that the United States has demonstrated—not merely with its words but with its actions—that we stand firmly behind Article 5, the mutual-defense commitment,” Trump said Thursday. “Words are easy, but actions are what matters. And for its own protection, Europe, and you know this, everybody knows this, everybody has to know this, Europe must do more.”

Trump has repeatedly said NATO members must spend more on defense—a position in line with past U.S. administrations. But he has been criticized because he appeared to suggest U.S. commitment to mutual defense was predicated on its allies’ defense spending. ...”

https://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2017/07/trump-russia/532761/


5 posted on 05/20/2018 5:02:14 AM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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The nations of the west have acknowledged that Crimea is Russia by inaction


7 posted on 05/20/2018 5:04:59 AM PDT by Thibodeaux (Long Live the Republic!)
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To: McGruff
Yeah, what's Putin going to do about it anyways.

It can get cold in the winter in the Ukraine without Russian natural gas. Or, if the doesn't want to wait, trade infrastructure for infrastructure - take out power plants.

8 posted on 05/20/2018 5:06:26 AM PDT by PAR35
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Mike Pence on Putin and Russia:

(from the VP debate on Oct 5, 2016)

“When Donald Trump and I observe that, as I’ve said, in Syria, in Iran, in Ukraine, that the small and bullying leader of Russia has been stronger on the world stage than this administration, that’s stating painful facts.

That’s not an endorsement of Vladimir Putin — that’s an indictment of the weak and feckless leadership of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.”

PENCE: We’ve just got to have American strength on the world stage. When Donald Trump becomes president of the United States, the Russians and other countries in the world will know they’re dealing with a strong American president.

PENCE: What we’re dealing with is the — you know, there’s an old proverb that says the Russian bear never dies, it just hibernates.

And the truth of the matter is, the weak and feckless foreign policy of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama has awakened an aggression in Russia that first appeared a few years ago with their move in Georgia, now their move into Crimea, now their move into the wider Middle East.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/06/us/politics/vice-president-transcript.html


9 posted on 05/20/2018 5:07:32 AM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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I guess if Ukraine blew up the bridge Putin would invade Ukraine, oh wait he already has done that.


12 posted on 05/20/2018 5:14:26 AM PDT by tlozo
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To: McGruff

Senator Ted Cruz on Russia, 2015...

“We can redouble our efforts to develop the defensive weapons that neutralized the offensive Soviet threat — particularly missile defense, which has seen a 25% budget reduction under Obama, according to an analysis from the conservative Heritage Foundation, and has been constrained by bad arms deals like New START.

We should not only move quickly to install the canceled interceptor sites Putin opposed in Poland and the Czech Republic, but also to develop the next generation of systems that will only increase his discomfiture.

These options do not entail a ground war in Syria, yet would effectively shake us free from the failed policies that have brought us to our current impasse.

These options set us on a new path that puts Putin on notice that the United States is reclaiming our traditional role as leader of the free world.”

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/09/opinions/cruz-syria-putin/index.html
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Cruz:

“What we’re seeing Putin in Russia do is a direct response to the profound weakness of Obama over six and a half years.

Putin views Obama as weak, as ineffective, and frankly, as a laughingstock. And, as a result, he is moving in, he is invading his neighbors, like Ukraine, he’s kidnapping Estonians, and he’s moving into Syria to gain a stronger foothold in the Middle East.”

https://www.tedcruz.org/news/icymi-cruz-we-have-no-business-getting-in-the-middle-of-the-syrian-civil-war-goal-should-be-to-defeat-isis/
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Cruz:

“We need a coherent plan to address both the specific crisis in Syria and the challenge posed more broadly by Putin’s resurgent Russia.

The good news is that America still has options, if our leaders can summon the will to exercise them.

For starters, in Syria we can’t double down on the failed strategies that have given Putin his opportunity to intervene.

We are now two years out from President Obama’s proposed intervention after al-Assad used chemical weapons against his own people. ...”

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/09/opinions/cruz-syria-putin/index.html


23 posted on 05/20/2018 5:32:39 AM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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How Russia arms America’s southern neighbors

Ioan Grillo
May 9, 2014

RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil — Russia’s push into Ukraine has put many on edge. But less known is that Russia is also strengthening its military links south of the Rio Grande and re-establishing itself as a power in the region.

Vladimir Putin has been strengthening military links here, and Russia is now the largest arms dealer to governments in Latin America, surpassing the United States.

Russia has even floated the possibility of building new military bases in Cuba, Venezuela and Nicaragua, and putting its warships permanently in the Caribbean.

In the midst of the Ukraine crisis, Russia’s top diplomat Sergei Lavrov recently visited Cuba, Peru, Chile, and Nicaragua, where he announced that Russia would also pour money into the new Central American canal project. ...”

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/americas/140508/russian-arms-military-trade-latin-america
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Russia Boosts Arms, Training for Leftist Latin Militaries

Moscow defense minister inks deals with Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua for joint exercises

BY: Bill Gertz
February 20, 2015

Russia agreed to provide military training for three leftist regimes in Latin America and increase military visits and exercises following a visit last week to the region by Moscow’s Defense Minister Sergei Shoygu, Pentagon officials said.

Shoygu met with defense and military leaders in Cuba, Venezuela, and Nicaragua and signed several agreements on warship visits and military training during the visit, which ran from Feb. 11 to 14. It is not clear whether any new arms deals were completed during the visit.

Defense officials said the Russian leader is seeking bases in the region for strategic bomber flights that Shoygu recently promised would include flights over the Gulf of Mexico and Caribbean.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/russia-boosts-arms-training-for-leftist-latin-militaries/

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KGB/FSB Putin very much wants a ‘unified Korea’...under communist NK rule

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Russia and North Korea declare 2015 a ‘year of friendship’

“The biggest cause for concern is the growing military alliance between Russia and North Korea, with the two regimes recently announcing plans to conduct a series of joint army, navy and air force exercises this year.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/11463265/Russia-and-North-Korea-declare-2015-a-year-of-friendship.html

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Russia steps up North Korea support to constrain US

May 17, 2017

“Despite efforts by the United Nations to impose isolating sanctions on North Korea in response to the country’s continued development of nuclear weapons and intercontinental ballistic missiles, trade between Russia and North Korea soared more than 85 percent in the first four months of the year.”

http://www.dw.com/en/russia-steps-up-north-korea-support-to-constrain-us/a-38867861


24 posted on 05/20/2018 5:34:04 AM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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26 posted on 05/20/2018 5:38:33 AM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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I understand that Crimea has historically been a part of Russia. It was assigned to Ukraine around 1954, but previously was Russian. Putin seems to be a nationalist looking out for Russia’s interests. I don’t think it is in America’s best interests to get sucked into a war with Russia, nor should we have ever let Ukraine into NATO.

We are too overextended militarily. The last thing we need is a war with Russia to further weaken the West in the face of a moslem invasion of Europe.


27 posted on 05/20/2018 5:42:43 AM PDT by captain_dave
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Ukraine doesn’t even have a Navy.

Russia took over Ukraine’s share of the Black Sea Fleet in 2014.

And Putin has made sure the Russian Navy will protect that expensive bridge.

Which will make it easier for Crimea to transport stuff less expensively to Russia and raise living standards in Crimea to levels on mainland Russia.

For him its a win-win and he could hardly care less what Ukraine and the West think.


31 posted on 05/20/2018 5:53:29 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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15K dead. Twice or even three times that number wounded. Thousands of homes, farms, villages destroyed/wrecked. Ya, lets ram things up! And how exactly does this author with his degree in "War Studies" propose Ukraine accomplish air strikes on Kerch Peninsula? With SU-24s?

Ukraine has suffered enough. Everyone in The Donbas have suffered enough. We need to cool things off, not turn them red-hot!

34 posted on 05/20/2018 5:58:01 AM PDT by donozark (Restraining orders are just another way of saying I love you.)
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They should blow the bridge.

And the putin shills should blow...

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everyone else.


36 posted on 05/20/2018 6:06:23 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Stefan Halper Stefan Halper Stefan Halper Stefan Halper Stefan Halper)
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I’m sure the globalists would love Ukraine to attack Russia.

Lots of white Christians dying and another US war for them to make money on.

What’s to lose except some deplorable boys?


38 posted on 05/20/2018 6:10:24 AM PDT by Jim Noble (The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers)
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Ukraine was another one of McCain’s wars.

John McCain tells Ukraine protesters: ‘We are here to support your just cause’

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/15/john-mccain-ukraine-protests-support-just-cause

Putin just took advantage of the situation to get Crimea back.


39 posted on 05/20/2018 6:15:18 AM PDT by McGruff (MAGA)
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Perfect. Crimea bridge blown up by Ukraine. Putin then has legitimate reason for full scale attack and takeover of Ukraine.


46 posted on 05/20/2018 6:52:09 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you)
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Useful idiots

Thomas Sowell
May 20, 2003

“The term ‘useful idiots’ has been attributed to Lenin, as a description of those mindless people in the Western democracies who would always find ways to excuse whatever the Soviet Union did. Columnist Mona Charen’s new book Useful Idiots shows that such people are still with us.

Long after the Soviet Union’s horrors had become too widely known around the world for their sympathizers in the West to be able to get away with whitewashing the USSR, new Communist dictatorships arose to become the new objects of the affections of the Western intelligentsia and of like-minded people in the media and in politics. ...”

http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2003/05/20/useful_idiots


60 posted on 05/20/2018 7:38:53 AM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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“During the 20th century three periods of independence occurred.

The first of these periods occurred briefly during and immediately after the German occupation near the end of World War I and the second occurred, also briefly, and also during German occupation, during World War II.

However, both of these first two earlier periods would eventually see Ukraine’s territories consolidated back into a Soviet republic within the USSR.

The third period of independence began in 1991, when Ukraine gained its independence from the Soviet Union in the aftermath of its dissolution at the end of the Cold War.

Ukraine has maintained its independence as a sovereign state ever since.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_military_intervention_in_Ukraine_(2014%E2%80%93present)


61 posted on 05/20/2018 7:45:34 AM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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Yeah, let’s play “you and him fight”.

I’m all for Ukraine blowing up whatever they want to, as long as they are prepared to deal with the consequences in a manner which does not involve US forces, US supplies, or US money.


78 posted on 05/23/2018 9:30:57 AM PDT by Jim Noble (The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers)
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