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Game Over, Anti-Trump Democrats: Trump CIA Nominee Clinches Enough Votes For Confirmation
Townhall.com ^ | May 15, 2018 | Matt Vespa

Posted on 05/15/2018 8:27:45 PM PDT by Kaslin

The ballgame is over on Gina Haspel’s confirmation battle. She’s President Trump’s nominee for CIA director. She will be the first female director in the agency’s history. Nevertheless, the process has been a mini-war on women, with dedicated left-wingers pushing the usual talking point: ‘yeah, she’s a woman, but she’s not a real woman.' Translation: only liberal women can be true feminists and only liberal women can benefit from feminism. Oh, and if you’re nominated by a Republican, especially Trump, you’re Satan, or something. Yet, she’s been able to clinch some Democrats, as Sens. John McCain (R-AZ) and Rand Paul (R-KY) have voiced their opposition to her nomination; McCain already put a the GOP in a shaky position, given that he’s unable to vote due to his brain cancer fight. 

4 Dem Senators now backing Haspel's nomination to become CIA Dir. Dem ND Sen Heitkamp the latest. Others are Warner, Donnelly & Manchin— Chad Pergram (@ChadPergram) May 15, 2018

Yet, Haspel can now breath a sigh of relief. Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA) announced his support of Ms. Haspel, who along with Sens. Joe Manchin (D-WV), Heidi Heitkamp (D-ND),  Joe Donnelly (D-IN), put her nomination over the top (via WaPo):

Gina Haspel appears to have secured enough votes to be confirmed as the country’s next CIA director after stating in a letter to a top Democrat that the agency never should have detained terrorist suspects and employed brutal interrogation techniques against them.

Senate Intelligence Committee Vice Chairman Mark R. Warner (D-Va.) said Tuesday that he had asked Haspel to write down her views because he believed that in one-on-one meetings she had expressed greater regret, and more resolute moral opposition to the agency’s interrogation program than she had communicated during her confirmation hearing last week.

“I believe she is someone who can and will stand up to the President if ordered to do something illegal or immoral — like a return to torture,” Warner said in a statement, citing his past interaction with Haspel and the overwhelming support for her among the agency’s rank and file. He added that he also had “respect” for those “who have made a different decision” about her nomination.

Warner’s support for Haspel provides more opportunity for her to gain the backing of other lawmakers who were on the fence about her nomination.

This whole fight was odd. Haspel is a lifelong intelligence operative, whose credentials are impeccable. Yet, her qualifications are not in question. It was her time at the CIA when the enhanced interrogation program was in effect. For a little bit, the Democratic Party suffered a bit of amnesia over waterboarding, which they knew about prior to the program going into effect. One of those Democrats was Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA):

She was one of the first Americans outside the Agency to learn of the enhanced interrogation program. Did she resign in protest? Leak to the media? Loudly condemn the practice upon learning of it?

She did none of these things. According to the New York Times, interrogations began in March 2002. Pelosi was one of four members of Congress briefed on the procedures that September. The congressmen, reported the Washington Post, were "given a virtual tour of the CIA's overseas detention sites and harsh techniques interrogators had devised to try to make their prisoners talk," including waterboarding. No one raised objections. "Instead," the Post continues, "at least two lawmakers in the room asked the CIA to push harder, two U.S. officials said." The next year, when she was read into the program, Democrat Jane Harman wrote a letter protesting interrogations. No such correspondence came from Pelosi.

In fact, Pelosi knew about enhanced interrogation before Gina Haspel did. At her confirmation hearing, Haspel told Susan Collins that she did not learn of the program "until about a year into its existence." That was months after Congress had been informed. "I was told that interrogation experts had designed the program, that the highest legal authority in the United States had approved it, and that the president of the United States had approved it as well as trusted leadership at the Central Intelligence Agency," Haspel said.

Haspel was an employee of the president of the United States. But Nancy Pelosi was in a position to make moral judgments. She had no obligation or responsibility to George W. Bush. She could have raised a ruckus if she wanted to—it's not like she was worried she might ruin her friendship with the president.

So why should Gina Haspel—a long-time, highly capable, well regarded civil servant who would be the first female director of central intelligence and enjoys the support of both Republican and Democratic national security officials—pay for her involvement in a program to which Nancy Pelosi voiced no objection until it became politically convenient?

I can't think of a reason. And I doubt Democrats can think of a reason, either. As Tom Cotton pointed out, if they really held to the standard that no one who had knowledge of interrogations should hold high office, why did Democrats vote to confirm John Brennan as CIA director?

And therein rests the hypocrisy. Virtually the entire Democratic caucus, and McCain, voted for John Brennan for CIA director, who was also a top CIA official when this program was in effect. Brennan later said a lot of useful information was obtained through this method. 

This was all about being against Haspel because Trump nominated her. If Obama had nominated her if the opportunity came around, she would have been praised as a glass-ceiling breaker. As it turns out, being anti-Trump for the sake of being anti-Trump is not a sustainable line of attack, nor a smart strategy—especially when Obama’s intelligence fully endorsed Haspel’s confirmation. 


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: antitrump; cia; ciadirector; eit; ginahaspel; presidenttrump; rumpwhitehouse; trumpwhitehouse
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1 posted on 05/15/2018 8:27:45 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Hmmm, McCain, where have I heard that name before.

Is that the stuff that plugs my toilet?

It’ll come to me.


2 posted on 05/15/2018 8:30:02 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: Kaslin

I didn’t like her caving on the waterboarding issue- said ‘it never should have happened’- she could have just said nothing and still been confirmed- but she apparently wanted to let the world know that she also thought waterboarding was torture- handing the dems just what they wanted- The dems won on hte issue- they got waterboarding deemed to be ‘torture’- She just helped them win on that argument when she could have just not said anything after all the hearings-


3 posted on 05/15/2018 8:36:50 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Kaslin

Game over for confirmation.

Game on for operations.

Everybody step out of the line of fire for the Iranian mullahs - it is no longer a safe space.


4 posted on 05/15/2018 8:37:19 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Kaslin

>>>like a return to torture<<<

What is he talking about? You can’t return to somewhere you’ve never been.


5 posted on 05/15/2018 8:38:48 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: Bob434

‘said it never should have happened’

I don’t believe she said that. She also refused to say it’s immoral.


6 posted on 05/15/2018 8:46:00 PM PDT by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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To: Kaslin

This is a good example why I have no use for ideological labels. Lots of people get all excited by Rand Paul, who I generally like because he often puts forth good policies, but not because he’s a “conservative” or a “Tea Party Republican”. Then he pulls a stunt like this and the others and you wonder where his head is at and you can’t rely on him to do the right thing.


7 posted on 05/15/2018 8:47:42 PM PDT by bigbob (Trust Sessions. Trust the Plan.)
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To: Helicondelta

well unless i heard the news story on her tonight wrong- that is what i believe she said-


8 posted on 05/15/2018 8:52:43 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Helicondelta

here’s an article on it:

https://epeak.in/2018/05/15/haspel-now-says-cia-waterboarding-never-should-have-happened/


9 posted on 05/15/2018 8:54:37 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Kaslin

Woo Hoo, Gina!


10 posted on 05/15/2018 8:58:03 PM PDT by Lopeover ( The 2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States!)
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To: Kaslin

We’re gonna need a lot more popcorn when she gets started!


11 posted on 05/15/2018 8:59:26 PM PDT by LUV W (Our troops are the best of the best and we should honor them EVERY day!)
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To: Kaslin

Good news.


12 posted on 05/15/2018 8:59:29 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: DoughtyOne

Any speculation why Pelosi did not object to it or out this in 2002?


13 posted on 05/15/2018 9:01:26 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: Bob434

It doesn’t matter what she said because they wouldn’t vote for her anyway.


14 posted on 05/15/2018 9:08:03 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Kaslin

Breaking through the glass ceiling the right way.


15 posted on 05/15/2018 9:12:58 PM PDT by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: Bob434

She told them what they wanted to hear. The CIA uses whatever techniques they have to use to get information. That ain’t about to change.


16 posted on 05/15/2018 9:52:03 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("Man without God descends into madness")
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To: laplata

my point wasn’t that she would get their votes- we all know that no matter what- they werren’t voting for her- I was just disappointed that she said that as it strengthened their false claim that waterboarding is torture- Now they get to say “Even a republican on trump’s team thinks it was torture”

She could have simply not said anything at all- and left it at her confirmation claims- You can’t give the left even an inch- they will exploit it every time- that is why i find it very puzzling that republicans constantly go on the enemie’s news sites- like CNN- ABC etc- because they almost always end up giving fodder to the enemy


17 posted on 05/15/2018 11:29:23 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Kaslin

John McCain should not be heeded one iota on this matter, simply because he is not capable of casting a vote either way on this issue of choosing or not choosing a CIA Director. McCain continues to hold on to his Senate seat, even though he is not capable of traveling to Washington, DC to cast his vote in person, as required by Senate rules of order.

McCain’s fatal “dying” condition literally leaves the citizen voters of Arizona without a functioning Senator. He should have graciously, with respect, for his voters resigned his Senate seat, voluntarily. He did not choose to do that. Not the greatest public servant in the least, IMHO.


18 posted on 05/15/2018 11:38:39 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (Defeat both the Republican (e) & Democrat (e) political parties....Forever!!!)
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To: bigbob

Rand Paul now has a history of this play, and I call it play. When is the vote scheduled? Just hours before, he will come out and make some statement that last minutes changes to ‘something’ has now made it possible to vote in favor of whatever it is.

This little crap weasel is doing nothing more than ‘trying’ to collect chits to use later for his pet causes. In reality, I think he is now getting nothing because Trump will not play his stupid little game. Maybe Paul has some deep resentment from the primaries and is doing nothing more than to do a mini McNuts adolescent foot stomping. The problem for him is that nobody gives a crap.


19 posted on 05/15/2018 11:56:05 PM PDT by mazda77
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To: Kaslin

Dems are extremely desperate to save their Senate seats so they will give up on opposing nomination to seem to be good guys when elections come around in November.

Manchin - could have been good. Heitkamp - coward - gone
Warner - wouldn’t trust him to take out a dead rat to the trash.

Don’t know anything about Donnelly but if he is a Democrat, he can’t be trusted with the security of our country. Out!


20 posted on 05/16/2018 1:20:38 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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