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Louisiana: Is Gov John Bel Edwards resorting to 'Liberal Scare Tactics'?
Various | 10-May-2018 | Various

Posted on 05/10/2018 7:08:10 PM PDT by topher

Vanity lead in about this:

In 1978-1979, then California Governor Jerry Brown 'punished' the taxpayers for passing Proposition 13 (making property taxes affordable for those who had lived in California all their lives).

Governor Brown cut police and fire services to 'punish' the taxpayers of California for passing Prop 13 (or Proposition 13).

Then in 1981, then California Governor Jerry Brown hired 'Hanoi Jane Fonda' to head an Arts Committee with a $1 million budget. This infuriated California voters even more.

One of the articles below attributes the actions of then California Jerry Brown to getting Ronald Reagan president.

Articles of interest:

Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association: Proposition 13: A Look Back

[Politico.com]Brown nailed by Fonda flashback

[Or alternate title:Flashback: In 1981, Jerry Brown nailed for naming 'Hanoi Jane' Fonda to Job.]

Continued Vanity on what is happening today in Louisiana.

Now, Governor John Bel Edwards is using the same 'scare tactic' that Jerry Brown used to 'punish California voters in 1978-1981.

Gov. John Bel Edwards is proposing to close Nursing Homes and kick the elderly out onto the streets and to close various hospitals in Louisiana that are both 'teaching Hospitals' and those helping the poor.

Articles on this current situation:

KLFY.com: Budget Crisis may close University Hospital and leave hundreds of thousands of patients without medical care

Budget Crisis Looms for Teaching Hospital that care for the Poor in Louisiana [my title]


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: johnbeledwards; liberalplaybook; louisiana; scaretactic
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I apologize for the Vanity to explain the situation in Louisiana.

I have seen 'Liberals' punishing voters for going against these 'Liberal Masters Wishes'.

I lived in California during the time of Proposition 13. I had a couple of uncles who would not have been able to pay for property taxes because of the expontential rise in the value of real estate in California in the 1970's/1980's. Both of these uncles lived in California since they were children.

Now it appears that Gov. John Bel Edwards is 'punishing' the people of Louisiana for not doing his wishes.

This 'very poor leader' who was educated at West Point had called a special session of the Louisiana Legislature earlier which did absolutely nothing of value.

During this session of the SPECIAL SESSION, Gov John Bel Edwards showed what a poor leader he was.

He called the SPECIAL SESSION, and then he did a 'Hand Washing' about it saying he leaves it up to the legislature to resolved.

Not exactly what the late General George S Patton would have done (also a West Point grad).

1 posted on 05/10/2018 7:08:10 PM PDT by topher
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To: topher
Things in LOUISIANA are a mess right now. Democrat John Bel Edwards is Governor, and the buck stops with him.

Maybe the taxpayers of Louisiana would be good to RECALL him at this point.

2 posted on 05/10/2018 7:09:41 PM PDT by topher (America, please Do The Right Thing!)
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To: topher

Apparently, SCARING PEOPLE and doing stupid things are the only things LIBERALS know how to do...


3 posted on 05/10/2018 7:11:17 PM PDT by topher (America, please Do The Right Thing!)
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To: topher
Two articles about the current budget crisis from NOLA.com:

Cuts in Louisiana budget are larger than they appear | Opinion | NOLA.com ...

Louisiana following through with warnings to 37000 ... - NOLA.com

4 posted on 05/10/2018 7:18:03 PM PDT by topher (America, please Do The Right Thing!)
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To: topher

It’s never been done, but Louisiana does have a provision to recall state elected officials.

https://ballotpedia.org/Laws_governing_recall_in_Louisiana

Otherwise, Edwards next faces the voters in November 2019.


5 posted on 05/10/2018 7:33:08 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: topher

“Things in LOUISIANA are a mess right now”

Yes.

There will not be a recall. Some “good” Republicans endorsed Edwards.

Republicans control the Legislature.

Candidates run as Republicans and govern as democrats.

The state was not helped out at all with eight years of Jindal, who spent most of his energy running for president the whole time.


6 posted on 05/10/2018 7:46:41 PM PDT by odawg
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To: topher
One thing that I failed to mention is that in the LIBERAL Scare Tactic Playbook, essential services are cut or done away with - such as police and fire that was done by Jerry Brown in 1978-1981.

In Louisiana, they are considering cutting essential services such as Nursing Homes and Hospitals for the poor.

Ironically, LIBERAL black legislators turned down a SALES-TAX increase because it would hurt the poor.

Seems like - putting the ELDERLY onto the streets from Nursing Homes and closing Hospitals that the poor go to - hurts the poor more than a 1 cent sales tax increase.

Maybe Louisiana politicians are incredibly STUPID and CORRUPT...

But this is what makes this the LIBERAL Scare Tactic Play - CUTTING ESSENTIAL SERVICES.

That is why I think it is appropriate to change the 'c' to an 'n' in Democrat and now you have a Demon Rat

[Just painting them a hellish orange/red -- as that is what these folks are -- servants of Satan]

7 posted on 05/10/2018 8:02:55 PM PDT by topher (America, please Do The Right Thing!)
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To: topher
One important omission is from the Gospel of Mathew - The Parable of the Talents:

Mathew Chapter 25:29-30.

This can be paraphrased as: to one given much, much is expected. In the parable, the one given FIVE Talents made Five Talents more. He was given one more talent from the one who did nothing with the single Talent.

In politics, this should be remembered. If you are President or Governor, much is expected of you. That is why I do not mind the President having many people working on his staff. The same is true of a state Governor.

People in positions of responsibility can have extra benefits to outweigh the stress they are under. I consider this to be fair.

The full text of the Parable of Talents is from verses Mathew 25:13-30. I am quoting the NIV version. But I consider that those in leadership should heed the parable of the talents...

Matt 25:13-30

13 "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour.
14 "Again, it will be like a man going on a journey, who called his servants and entrusted his property to them.
15 To one he gave five talents of money, to another two talents, and to another one talent, each according to his ability. Then he went on his journey.
16 The man who had received the five talents went at once and put his money to work and gained five more.
17 So also, the one with the two talents gained two more.
18 But the man who had received the one talent went off, dug a hole in the ground and hid his master's money.
19 "After a long time the master of those servants returned and settled accounts with them.
20 The man who had received the five talents brought the other five. 'Master,' he said, 'you entrusted me with five talents. See, I have gained five more.'
21 "His master replied, 'Well done, good and faithful servant! You have been faithful with a few things; I will put you in charge of many things. Come and share your master's happiness!'
22 "The man with the two talents also came. 'Master,' he said, 'you entrusted me with two talents; see, I have gained two more.'
23 "His master replied, 'Well done, good and faithful servant! You have been faithful with a few things; I will put you in charge of many things. Come and share your master's happiness!'
24 "Then the man who had received the one talent came. 'Master,' he said, 'I knew that you are a hard man, harvesting where you have not sown and gathering where you have not scattered seed.
25 So I was afraid and went out and hid your talent in the ground. See, here is what belongs to you.'
26 "His master replied, 'You wicked, lazy servant! So you knew that I harvest where I have not sown and gather where I have not scattered seed?
27 Well then, you should have put my money on deposit with the bankers, so that when I returned I would have received it back with interest.
28 "'Take the talent from him and give it to the one who has the ten talents.
29 For everyone who has will be given more, and he will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken from him.
30 And throw that worthless servant outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.'
(NIV)

8 posted on 05/10/2018 8:53:52 PM PDT by topher (America, please Do The Right Thing!)
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To: topher; Galactic Overlord-In-Chief; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj

Jeff Landry not running for Governor, seeking reelection as AG.

Edwards (or Bel Edwards, I don’t know if that’s supposed to be a middle name or not) needs to be gotten rid of.

Senator Kennedy to decide whether he’ll run by Dec 1.


9 posted on 11/16/2018 5:08:32 AM PST by Impy (I have no virtue to signal.)
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To: Impy; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; Galactic Overlord-In-Chief; LS

Sen. Kennedy can run without losing his seat. I’m guessing that even in his short time in DC that he’s had a bellyful of the garbage there and might prefer to go back to Baton Rouge. If he runs and wins, I’d like to see him appoint Landry to his seat.


10 posted on 11/16/2018 8:45:49 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Impy; BillyBoy; Galactic Overlord-In-Chief; LS

Given that Huey Long had to resign from the LA governorship in order to take his seat in the U.S. Senate (he stayed as governor for the first several months of the Senate term for which he was elected), I assume that the LA constitution does not allow someone to be governor and U.S. Senator simultaneously.

This means that Senator Kennedy would have to resign from the Senate before taking the oath of office as governor, and that if he resigns right before raising his right hand to take the oath Edwards can jump in and appoint Mitch LAndrieu or something to the Senate. Alaska Republicans suspected that that was Governor Tony Knowles’s plan when Senator Frank Murkowski was elected to replace him as governor in 2002. The Alaska legislature decided not to allow this to occur and passed a law saying that a vacancy in the Senate could be filled by the governor not earlier than 7 days (or something like that) after the vacancy was created. Knowles showed that Republican concerns were not in vain by vetoing the bill, but thankfully the GOP legislators were able to override his veto. (Unfortunately, Murkowski used the extra time create a search committee to consider approximately 50 different people for the job, and after several weeks came to the conclusion that the optimal candidate for the position was ... RINO his daughter.)

So unless current LA law would prevent Edwards from appointing a Senator in his last minutes in office (which I doubt is the case—legislatures rarely are that forward-thinking), and unless the LA legislature can override Edwards’s certain veto of a bill to restrict Senate appointments for very recent vacancies (which is unlikely, given that the GOP is several seats short of the required 2/3 in both houses), I think that Senator John Kennedy should be told to stick to the Senate seat to which he committed to serve for six years and not let the RAT governor appoint his replacement.


11 posted on 11/16/2018 9:59:41 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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Actually, Long delayed taking his Senate seat practically a year. He was elected in November 1930 and didn’t assume his seat until late January 1932. Long didn’t want his Lieutenant Governor, Paul N. Cyr, a bitter opponent, assuming the Governorship and undoing his entire agenda, which Cyr pledged to do. Through a shocking level of chicanery and subterfuge by Long, when Cyr tried to assume the Governorship, Long considered the Lt Governorship “vacated”, appointed a hack to the position and since Long hadn’t officially resigned, Cyr had declared himself the Governor where there was no vacancy and was turned out entirely. It’s unlikely today any serious judge would’ve permitted Cyr to have been ousted in such a manner, but that’s what you get in Demonrat fiefdoms.


12 posted on 11/16/2018 10:13:23 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy; Galactic Overlord-In-Chief; campaignPete R-CT
Woah! I can't help but admire Long's Machiavellianism. I will say though that without a resignation from Long that Cyr had no more right to the governorship than Long had right to claim he somehow vacated his office, Cyr badly miscalculated. Was Cyr a conservative or just not a communist? I admire him as well for starting to govern whenever Long left the state, Mike Curb did the same thing to Jerry Brown.

Has the Senate ever declared vacant a seat where the winner refused to qualify? I'm guessing not, aside from cases when the leg elected someone who didn't want the job, back in the day, I'm sure that's probably happened.

Do we know how many states have the LT become Acting Governor if the Gov leaves the state? I presume not all of them. It doesn't happen to POTUS when he leaves the country. I certainly hope Bel Edwards, and Roy Cooper if NC has the same provision, haven't been allowed to leave their states without consequence.

I also admire Tony Knowles, I'd have planned the exact same thing (but by God I would have kept it friggin secret!), Senate seats are precious precious gold.

This potential snag in Kennedy running for Governor is unfortunate. Not I love the former democrat but dude looks like the strongest candidate.

Newly reelected IL Comptroller Susie Q Mendoza is running for Chi Mayor btw. I have to say I don't love the phenomenon of running for one office that would require you to abandon the other you hold if you win, especially if you JUST won it. Governor JaBba would auction off the office to the highest bidder if Susie wins. Not that I'm in favor of AZ style "resign to run" nonsense.

13 posted on 11/16/2018 4:41:47 PM PST by Impy (I have no virtue to signal.)
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To: Impy; BillyBoy; NFHale; LS; Galactic Overlord-In-Chief; Theodore R.

Cyr apparently got along with Long when they initially won for Gov/Lt Gov, but it took him about 5 minutes to rightly diagnose Long as a dictator. So, I’d presume Cyr was a Conservative. Not unusual with one-party Dem states at the time with leftist and Conservative factions (unlike today with one-party Dem areas all being usually uniformly Communist only divided by race/gender, etc).

Long likely would’ve resigned the Governorship at the start of the Senate session had Cyr been a puppet. It’s largely why he refused to leave Baton Rouge and run out his term in order to assure that his successor would be a puppet (as both the man who was installed dubiously with Cyr’s being driven out and the newly-nominated Guv candidate for 1932, O.K. Allen).

I don’t know if the Senate has ever declared vacant a seat where the winner refused to qualify. Usually, if such a situation were to occur, that would then be on the state Governor (heh). Of course, if all those anti-17thers got their wish, Long would’ve instructed the legislature to elect a puppet in 1930 to the Senate, and said puppet would’ve resigned at the end of the Gubernatorial term in the Spring of 1932 and Long “elected” in the special. At least with the 17th, Long couldn’t additionally control the Senate seat, as he could not technically exercise his duties and vote simultaneously (a point you can bring up next time we’re debating ‘the usual suspects’ on the board).

I have to say, though, I don’t think Bel Edwards would (or could) try such a stunt to fill the vacancy of Kennedy’s were he beaten. Presumably if he did try to install a Dem, Gov. Kennedy could then call for a special election ASAP and flush them out within some months. Probably best to get a definitive opinion from AG Landry on this business, though, in order to assure no such chicanery.


14 posted on 11/16/2018 5:58:38 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; NFHale; LS; Galactic Overlord-In-Chief; Theodore R.

Hmm, I just thought of this. I don’t know how it works in Louisiana (or Alaska) but if the outgoing term expires at a specific time, then the old Governor is no longer the Governor and whomever is next in line and qualified is technically acting Governor until the new one is sworn in. No? So couldn’t a Governor-elect Kennedy simply wait a few minutes after the term expires before resigning from the Senate and taking the oath? The LT is a Republican and is likely to be reeelected.


15 posted on 11/16/2018 10:05:58 PM PST by Impy (I have no virtue to signal.)
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To: Impy

Possibly.


16 posted on 11/17/2018 2:09:00 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: topher

John Bel Edwards IS a liberal scare tactic...all by himself.


17 posted on 11/17/2018 2:17:31 PM PST by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: Impy

His name is John Bel Edwards


18 posted on 11/17/2018 2:44:59 PM PST by deport
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To: AuH2ORepublican

I meant to ping you to #15.


19 posted on 11/17/2018 3:59:07 PM PST by Impy (I have no virtue to signal.)
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To: abb

Ping to our discussion of the 2019 LA Gubernatorial race in this thread beginning in post 9.


20 posted on 11/17/2018 4:00:37 PM PST by Impy (I have no virtue to signal.)
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