Anyone who walks in and thinks they have VIP clearances and can browse the NSA data listing without being tracked through each data request...is fooling themselves. The FBI may be as stupid as they act in public....but not the NSA folks. There’s probably an entire listing of these requests....who the target was....and who was logged on. Rosenstein has to be worried because all of this will lead back to the Obama White House.
Without prosecution of dozens of senior democrats, I fear the remains of our republic will not survive. Despite their efforts, I see the hand of God giving us one more chance to do right and restore the rule of law.
That third Rosenstein extension is the key. Extensions are good for ninety days. If those bastards allowed the fraudulently obtained Title I intercept to run out at this point, they are in deep doo doo. Mueller’s entire investigation is compromised.
Could this be why Republicans have been so cowed?
This is making Watergate look like a child’s birthday party.
The ONE who is at the helm of ALL that has been going on is none other than barack obama. If we thought we would be rid of him after 8 miserable years, think again. He aimed to keep his control over Washington and everything in it... he never planned on leaving or considering his time over/up.
While President, he used every way possible to set up his government forever. He, being black, was able to control the news media through fear of being racist and through threats... plus he used every dept and every person and every way, to keep his control long after 8 years.
He managed to get the justice dept and the intelligence agencies to give him the path to control.. complete control. He used the IRS to threaten and power to keep conservatives from fighting back. He tied their hands... and he had hillary at his fingertips to be a figurehead and obama would still be the power behind everything.
He had NO... NO ..plans to turn over his power to a new President Trump. He had him spied on from the beginning and through the transition. when we saw obama greeting Trump... there was hate and power in obama’s mind... Trump was never going to have the Presidency if obama held his control.
Look at what and who he had control over... the media.. they lie for him every day all day. Even michelle says she is the forever first lady.. and who in hill gave her that title? she and obama think they are the forever President. He believes the majority love, adore, worship him.. West must be putting a fear in obama’s plans... he is making waves in obama’s “people”.
Put it all together and the corruption is at the feet of obama... he never planned on giving it up.. He has kerry doing his secretary of state work to save his lousy iran deal.. the deal he bought with millions of dollars he flew in when he did not know or have any idea how to make a deal. He would love to see iran take Israel off the map... and destroy the United States we have known... obama would end up with a kingdom much like the bad Lion in the Lion King movie... devastation.
Obama has been mueller’s boss.. we see the judges tell him there can be no unfettered power, but that is exactly what Obama had and wants to keep. They all answer to obama... not to President Trump!!!! Until the Trump administration understands and makes sure the country, the courts, congress, and the media .. and barack obama ... know we have a new President with the power obama once had and tried to hold on to... all are scared of him... and consider Trump not worthy to wear the shoes we voters gave him... they are paralyzed with fear and have obeyed for so long, they don’t know how to transition into a successful Presidency... one who loves this country enough to stand in the midst of all their attacks... obama is done... he is being exposed... as afraid as they are to name him... they will.. for he is the root and the evil that has been spread all over our land! God help us all!!
IOW, when Rosenstein aand Mueller learned of the political corruption behind the whole Russia / FISA / FBI probe, rather than close shop they doubled down, with Rosenstein issuing new authority to Mueller.
Wonder how long that had been going on (2008?) and if Analysis Corp. (et al) were one of those non-federal agencies.
WTF?
I read an interesting article, that Amazon Cloud Services made $600 million for a cloud solution covering all US security agencies.
Does anyone but me see an issue with this?
Furthermore, this setup may eventually come to bear directly on the collapsing house of cards that is the scam known as the "Russian Collusion Scandal".
What most people don't know is that in this Amazon cloud that security data have been placed into (that "outside government contractors" apparently have access to!) has a separate NSA and CIA component. The NSA component is highly auditable, access is tracked at every step with a high degree of granularity, so if someone is poking around and conducting searches, it is far easier for those with appropriate permissions to see who was looking at what data, and when they looked.
The CIA database does not have that same level of granularity in auditing, and (if I understand it correctly) the searches of audit data (who has been looking at what data) are far more tightly constrained in the CIA database, and are available to far fewer people. (I suspect the search functions in the CIA database are more oriented to a specific fewer number of people who know the structure of the CIA database and the probably arcane or more obscure language structures needed to search it.) I suspect the NSA database is easier to look through using a more user-friendly search mechanism, by more people who have simply been given permission, and the data is far more granular (detailed).
What I think all that means is, you can't search anonymously through data in the NSA database, and you are more likely to leave a trail which can more easily be found by a wider range of people, whereas, in the CIA database, once you get in the front door with the appropriate permission set, you can view a far wider range of data without leaving a footprint that it was accessed and looked at.
There are a select few number of people in the NSA and CIA who have the authority to transfer data between the two systems.
What does all this mean?
There is evidence that in 2016, there were large amounts of data moved from the NSA database (which easily exposes who looked at data) to the CIA database (which allows someone, if they get through the front door security-wise, to comb through data without leaving a trail...so you CANNOT see who looked at the data.
Interesting, no?
There was an article from Dan Bongino's website some month or two back (can't find it) that discusses it, but here is a link to the same type of information from a different article at The Citizens Outpost: Obama Administration May Have Moved Data From NSA Cloud To CIA Cloud To Avoid Audit Trail.
Here is an excerpt:
"…now some intelligence and data experts believe that the CIA cloud is how the Obama administration could have minimized its trail after unmasking US persons. “The NSA database, with its large and ongoing collection of electronic communications, can be accessed through the NSA’s cloud,” says one former senior intelligence official. The NSA can audit it and find out if analysts are violating rules. The NSA does not audit the CIA’s cloud, which is audited by the CIA’s IT people and Amazon Web Services employees who are given security clearances. Says the former official: “There are people in the CIA, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, and the National Security Council staff who can move information from the NSA cloud into the CIA cloud. That seems the likeliest scenario to explain how Obama officials first unmasked US persons and then shared information without leaving a trail that could be audited independently, or immediately, at every step. Since unmasking, by itself, is authorized for lawful purposes, it’s the processing and sharing, as with Susan Rice’s spreadsheets, that tell us if the information was being misused...”
The longer this continues, the deeper the mud, the more I am forced to the conclusion that the deep state players are in absolute control. All the folderol about 4D chess is so much bravado. Trump is compromised completely. Nothing else makes any sense.
I sure wish a real news agency, with deep pockets and plenty of resources would take an interest in this.
CTH is doing great work here. But, very few Americans know who they are, and even fewer trust anything they say.
hmmmmm,
contractors allowed in [4]
phones allowed in
these people are stupid
Sundance is still trying to figure out if Mueller is a black hat or a white hat.
There's no mystery here - undoubtedly, Mueller was questioning Rogers and Coats about their interactions with Trump.
Mueller simply was hoping for something, anything, that he could spin into a case of Trump trying to influence or obstruct the ODNI or the NSA with respect to collecting intelligence on Russia.
These people are not only criminal, they are ARROGANT and that’s their downfall.
POTUS/NSA has it all. Heads will roll (they have already started-look @ FBI exits/firings), and unsealed indictments coming sooner or later - sooner is my vote.
Now we know why Mueller does not want scope documents revealed,going to lead to questions as to why Rosenstein had to give him further instructions as to why they were going after Trump,since the counterintelligence operation was illegal,the Title 1 Carter Page warrant was just a vehicle to go after Trumps entire campaign staff,there was no gang of eight oversight because Comey didn’t ask for it because he said he was told not to by Bill Preistap,he was required to,in addition Yates told Horrowitz the IG had no oversight over DOJ.
1. It's hard to tell when a story actually begins, but the use of "contractors" by the NSA to track the Trump campaign in 2015 is probably a good place. The "contractors" were British spies who had direct access to the NSA database because they were working at the secret NSA facility in Maryland. (I'm not certain yet what this means, but another "contractor" was Daniel Richman. Richman is a Comey lawyer and was the guy who leaked the Comey memos to the NYT. I'm guessing he was keeping Comey informed of the NSA search results.)
2. Preparation of the Steele dossier begins in June 2016 and the report is finalized December 2016. However, the partial dossier was used on October 21, 2016 to make application for a FISA warrant, which is ultimately granted. This is 20 days before the Presidential election. NOTE: Now that the FBI/DOJ has control of the database, the NSA's "contractor" operation is shut down.
3.Now it gets interesting. At this point the DOJ Inspector General and the Internal Investigation Division of the FBI have no idea what is going on with the FISA fraud and the data searches that occur as a result of it. New information on the Trump campaign, election, and transition start appearing in the Presidential Daily Brief documents, but everyone thinks that is OK because of a legitimate FISA warrant. Only the FBI (and probably Lynch/Yates) knew that what they were including in the PDB was tainted.
4. The Comey memos are leaked to the NYT in May 2017 and one week later on May 17, 2017, Mueller is appointed special counsel by Rosenstein. At the time of the appointment, neither Mueller nor Rosenstein knows of the FBI corruption.
5. As Mueller gets oriented, he learns of the FISA Compliance report that Admiral Mike Rorgers (NSA Director) had conducted. Mueller met with Admiral Rogers and Dan Coats (Director of National Intelligence) in June 2017. Coats and Rogers brief Mueller on the hundreds of abuses identified in the FISA report and go on to tell him about the contemporary corruption in the FBI/DOJ. Mueller would immediately understand about the FISA issues because he was one of the people who developed FISA.
6. What happened next is why we know what we know today. In June, McCabe directs Lisa Page to leak to the NYT. Immediately after the publication of the leaks, the OIG starts a leak probe. McCabe tells the IG he didn't leak and doesn't know who did. Lisa Page tells the IG that McCabe directed her to leak.
7. In July 2017, Lisa Page proves to the IG that her version of the story was correct by showing the IG text messages. This is the moment the IG recognizes that there is a written record of the activities surrounding the FBI corruption. This is when the examination of the Strzok/Page texts begin. The IG tells Mueller and Rosenstein later in July that they have some serious problems.
8. To wrap up and make this relevant to what's happening now, in August, Mueller meets with Rosenstein. Mueller says something like "There is a lot of stuff we are learning about, some of which may be criminal. I first learned about this when I spoke with Coats and Rogers, so some of this knowledge I have is because of my investigation. According to your May 17, 2017 appointment memo, you included "other matters arising in the course of the investigation" as under my jurisdiction. Do you want me to get into this FBI/DOJ corruption mess?" Then, I imagine Rosenstein said, "No, the OIG is already working on this. Let him finish the work and you stay on target." And THAT is when the August 2, 2017 memo was written, which apparently focuses Mueller on Monafort and makes no mention of the FBI/DOJ corruption. This is the document that Judge T. S. Ellis wants to see un-redacted in his courtroom in 2 weeks.
So, that's the basic timeline from the article, but there is one more little tidbit.
9. On July 18, 2017, Rosenstein signed the third extension of the Carter Page FISA warrant. It is the last extension he authorized. This occurred shortly BEFORE the IG told Rosenstein that the warrant is probably tainted because of the falsified application using the Steele dossier. 3 months later, the Carter Page FISA warrant expired. No charge was ever brought against Carter Page.