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Mueller Interviewed NSA Mike Rogers Immediately Prior To Rosenstein Renewing Third FISA Extension…
theconservativetreehouse.com ^ | 5/7/18 | sundance

Posted on 05/08/2018 3:05:43 AM PDT by a little elbow grease

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To: Pravious

True, they counted chads in FL forever. `Usually a new thing is started with something small or insignificant... and after practice and getting used to expecting these things, they get into them in a huge way. I don’t think obama ever had a day where he trusted anyone... he covered his tracks, lie, and put on that condescending look and tone.... I couldn’t stand to look at the man or hear his voice.


41 posted on 05/08/2018 8:19:59 AM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: rlmorel

Exactly. The CIA has always played loose with administrative control (ADCON) and therefore won’t have an administrative trail. That’s where all the “don’t knows” come into play. Normal agencies, including NSA, maintain strict ADCON—forms and signatures for every action. State and CIA regularly play games, feign incompetence, and lie about technical issues.

The “unmasking” was an administrative action performed in an uncontrolled environment. That, in itself, is criminal—especially dealing with HUMINT. HUMINT requires the highest levels of ADCON and OPSEC. Casefiles are not accessible to even system administrators and DBAs. It’s classified and encrypted cradle-to-grave and only disseminated on a need-to-know basis.

The fact that the raw information was disclosed for the unmasking proved intent. The entire scenario shows a blatant disregard for not just procedure, but federal law. Just like Clinton having SAP material in a nonsecure environment. There is no requirement beyond fact. Such acts are criminal without further inquiry.

There is no legal mechanism to account for such breaches of trust—as anyone with a clearance will tell you. Literally tens to hundreds should be in jail, and there remains a technical trail that can prove the facts. People just don’t have the technical understanding, nor the patience or will to follow it.


42 posted on 05/08/2018 8:49:35 AM PDT by antidisestablishment ( Xenophobia is the only sane response to multiculturalismÂ’s irrational cultural exuberance)
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To: a little elbow grease
A year later, sometime in late June of 2017, a month after the appointment of Robert Mueller, the special counsel met with Director of National Intelligence, Dan Coats, and NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers.

Sundance is still trying to figure out if Mueller is a black hat or a white hat.

There's no mystery here - undoubtedly, Mueller was questioning Rogers and Coats about their interactions with Trump.

Mueller simply was hoping for something, anything, that he could spin into a case of Trump trying to influence or obstruct the ODNI or the NSA with respect to collecting intelligence on Russia.

43 posted on 05/08/2018 8:53:11 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: antidisestablishment

Thank you very much for the explanations.

It is hard to believe we see this in our lifetimes. The boldfaced lying, and the swearing to those lies by the Media.

And no accountability. Well, it isn’t over yet, so there is hope.


44 posted on 05/08/2018 9:05:15 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: a little elbow grease

These people are not only criminal, they are ARROGANT and that’s their downfall.

POTUS/NSA has it all. Heads will roll (they have already started-look @ FBI exits/firings), and unsealed indictments coming sooner or later - sooner is my vote.


45 posted on 05/08/2018 9:14:44 AM PDT by greeneyes
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To: a little elbow grease

Now we know why Mueller does not want scope documents revealed,going to lead to questions as to why Rosenstein had to give him further instructions as to why they were going after Trump,since the counterintelligence operation was illegal,the Title 1 Carter Page warrant was just a vehicle to go after Trumps entire campaign staff,there was no gang of eight oversight because Comey didn’t ask for it because he said he was told not to by Bill Preistap,he was required to,in addition Yates told Horrowitz the IG had no oversight over DOJ.


46 posted on 05/08/2018 11:08:33 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: antidisestablishment

>>Look to the lizard for the real power. She’s always been the handler.
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Are you referring to the Queen Elizabeth, or HRC? If you mean HRC, I think she merely carries out the wishes of the powerful global elites, most of whom we don’t know.


47 posted on 05/08/2018 11:59:30 AM PDT by Kalamata (bibleresearchtools.com)
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To: Kalamata
The lizard is Jarrett:


48 posted on 05/08/2018 12:22:23 PM PDT by antidisestablishment ( Xenophobia is the only sane response to multiculturalismÂ’s irrational cultural exuberance)
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To: antidisestablishment

Oh! I hadn’t thought about her, but you are right. She is his handler. But, who does she work for, do you suppose?


49 posted on 05/08/2018 1:06:37 PM PDT by Kalamata (bibleresearchtools.com)
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To: Kalamata

The same people who engineered and support the Iranian regime—the folks having a very bad, horrible day about now. ;)


50 posted on 05/08/2018 1:16:43 PM PDT by antidisestablishment ( Xenophobia is the only sane response to multiculturalismÂ’s irrational cultural exuberance)
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To: a little elbow grease
This is kind of a long read and it tends to jump around a bit.I think the timeline of what is being discussed is as follows:

1. It's hard to tell when a story actually begins, but the use of "contractors" by the NSA to track the Trump campaign in 2015 is probably a good place. The "contractors" were British spies who had direct access to the NSA database because they were working at the secret NSA facility in Maryland. (I'm not certain yet what this means, but another "contractor" was Daniel Richman. Richman is a Comey lawyer and was the guy who leaked the Comey memos to the NYT. I'm guessing he was keeping Comey informed of the NSA search results.)

2. Preparation of the Steele dossier begins in June 2016 and the report is finalized December 2016. However, the partial dossier was used on October 21, 2016 to make application for a FISA warrant, which is ultimately granted. This is 20 days before the Presidential election. NOTE: Now that the FBI/DOJ has control of the database, the NSA's "contractor" operation is shut down.

3.Now it gets interesting. At this point the DOJ Inspector General and the Internal Investigation Division of the FBI have no idea what is going on with the FISA fraud and the data searches that occur as a result of it. New information on the Trump campaign, election, and transition start appearing in the Presidential Daily Brief documents, but everyone thinks that is OK because of a legitimate FISA warrant. Only the FBI (and probably Lynch/Yates) knew that what they were including in the PDB was tainted.

4. The Comey memos are leaked to the NYT in May 2017 and one week later on May 17, 2017, Mueller is appointed special counsel by Rosenstein. At the time of the appointment, neither Mueller nor Rosenstein knows of the FBI corruption.

5. As Mueller gets oriented, he learns of the FISA Compliance report that Admiral Mike Rorgers (NSA Director) had conducted. Mueller met with Admiral Rogers and Dan Coats (Director of National Intelligence) in June 2017. Coats and Rogers brief Mueller on the hundreds of abuses identified in the FISA report and go on to tell him about the contemporary corruption in the FBI/DOJ. Mueller would immediately understand about the FISA issues because he was one of the people who developed FISA.

6. What happened next is why we know what we know today. In June, McCabe directs Lisa Page to leak to the NYT. Immediately after the publication of the leaks, the OIG starts a leak probe. McCabe tells the IG he didn't leak and doesn't know who did. Lisa Page tells the IG that McCabe directed her to leak.

7. In July 2017, Lisa Page proves to the IG that her version of the story was correct by showing the IG text messages. This is the moment the IG recognizes that there is a written record of the activities surrounding the FBI corruption. This is when the examination of the Strzok/Page texts begin. The IG tells Mueller and Rosenstein later in July that they have some serious problems.

8. To wrap up and make this relevant to what's happening now, in August, Mueller meets with Rosenstein. Mueller says something like "There is a lot of stuff we are learning about, some of which may be criminal. I first learned about this when I spoke with Coats and Rogers, so some of this knowledge I have is because of my investigation. According to your May 17, 2017 appointment memo, you included "other matters arising in the course of the investigation" as under my jurisdiction. Do you want me to get into this FBI/DOJ corruption mess?" Then, I imagine Rosenstein said, "No, the OIG is already working on this. Let him finish the work and you stay on target." And THAT is when the August 2, 2017 memo was written, which apparently focuses Mueller on Monafort and makes no mention of the FBI/DOJ corruption. This is the document that Judge T. S. Ellis wants to see un-redacted in his courtroom in 2 weeks.

So, that's the basic timeline from the article, but there is one more little tidbit.

9. On July 18, 2017, Rosenstein signed the third extension of the Carter Page FISA warrant. It is the last extension he authorized. This occurred shortly BEFORE the IG told Rosenstein that the warrant is probably tainted because of the falsified application using the Steele dossier. 3 months later, the Carter Page FISA warrant expired. No charge was ever brought against Carter Page.

51 posted on 05/08/2018 3:14:05 PM PDT by NutsOnYew
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