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Advantages of Criminals Using Imitation Guns
Ammoland ^ | 19 April, 2018 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 04/25/2018 1:36:11 PM PDT by marktwain

Advantages of Criminals Using Imitation Guns

In Iowa, criminals who use imitation guns are not treated as harshly under the law as are criminals who use real guns. It seems an obvious policy decision. When criminals use imitation guns, the vast majority of the risk is on the criminal. They are more likely to be shot. They are not able to shoot back. They are relying on the power of bluff and image to coerce people who they are attempting to victimize. It seems like a win-win for law and order.

In a recent AP article, a county attorney and a police chief want to change that. From usnews.com:

But police say they would support stronger deterrents in the law against using them like real weapons. The worry is twofold: First, that people are using them to commit crimes, and second, that a situation could arise where, in self-defense, a civilian or a police officer would use shoot someone displaying one.

While it's illegal to carry a real firearm in city limits without a concealed carry permit, Sioux City code does allow for the carry of lookalike “toy” weapons, such as a hand BB guns, provided they are not discharged. Police can only confiscate such weapons if they are used in a crime.

“You're not going to come across a lot of cops who have not patted someone down for weapons and found simulated weapons at one point in time,” Sioux City Police Chief Rex Mueller told the Sioux City Journal . “(But) there's kind of a gap in the law there that allows police officers to act.”


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The advantage of criminals using fake guns is that fewer innocent people are shot, clubbed, or stabbed.
1 posted on 04/25/2018 1:36:11 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

I once knew a convicted armed robber who told me that, before going in to rob, you have to mentally prepare yourself to gun down everyone in the place, just in case some idiot decides to endanger you by doing something stupid.

What he would think of someone going in with a fake weapon, I can only imagine. But it would probably go something like this. If you endanger yourself committing a crime by hoping to get a lesser sentence if caught, you probably shouldn’t be in the business.


2 posted on 04/25/2018 1:41:40 PM PDT by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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If its committing a crime of their own volition/decision/free will, should be treated like its real live weapon. Sentence should reflect it. Why docthey deserve any break, no one knows it and since criminals often get the murder charges if one of their fellow crooks is shot and dies during the crime, that fake gun put peoples lives at risk.


3 posted on 04/25/2018 1:50:16 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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I couldn’t agree more. It’s of a piece with ‘hate’ crimes.
The punishment should fit the crime, not your intentions going into it.


4 posted on 04/25/2018 1:53:51 PM PDT by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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What if there are no bullets in the gun?


5 posted on 04/25/2018 2:30:15 PM PDT by BBell (calm down and eat your sandwiches)
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"The advantage of criminals using fake guns is that fewer innocent people are shot, clubbed, or stabbed."

Agreed. Give 'em time off for not having real weapons.


6 posted on 04/25/2018 2:32:55 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: marktwain
In Iowa, criminals who use imitation guns are not treated as harshly under the law as are criminals who use real guns. It seems an obvious policy decision.

It might "seem" like it, but it's actually bad policy.

When criminals use imitation guns, the vast majority of the risk is on the criminal. They are more likely to be shot.

Boo fvcking hoo. Maybe they should have thought about that before robbing a gas station or liquor store. They are threatening deadly force, the fact they are not able to effect deadly force is not known by the victims. The gun may be fake, however the fear is not. Further, whatever calamity befalls the perpetrator here is his fault alone, for he is the proximate cause.

They are not able to shoot back. They are relying on the power of bluff and image to coerce people who they are attempting to victimize. It seems like a win-win for law and order.

Again this makes no sense. They aren't "attempting" to victimize anyone, they are in fact victimizing their neighbors. Don't be fooled.

They should be incarcerated with very nearly the same penalties if not in fact the same penalties. They are in fact threatening deadly force. It is not up to the victims to decide instantly if they are necessarily sincere or fully capable. How am I to know in a split second if some nutjob really has a functioning gun, a loaded gun, a fake gun etc etc? "Don't Start None, There Won't Be None."
7 posted on 04/25/2018 4:01:47 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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No real advantage. You use a fake gun in Michigan you still get charged with armed crimes.

CC


8 posted on 04/25/2018 4:20:06 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Do you know what really burns my ass? A flame about 3 feet high.)
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It is fantastic if they use fake guns, because the armed citizen with a real gun always win.

All the dead are criminals that way.


9 posted on 04/25/2018 4:21:46 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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