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McCabe Report Released!
Office of the DOJ Inspector General ^ | 4-13-18 | DOJ OIG

Posted on 04/13/2018 11:32:44 AM PDT by bigbob

Link to the report only - pdf download.

(Excerpt) Read more at static01.nyt.com ...


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To: Terry Mross

Making false statements to federal investigators is a FELONY!! My God— that what is charged on Flynn. Why is that man not in chains?? WHERE IS THAT DAMNED SESSIONS?


121 posted on 04/13/2018 12:30:52 PM PDT by raiderboy (Three generations of our poorly educated have no ability to think.)
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To: bigbob

Baloney. There is no storm coming, now or ever. The OIG is a paper tiger to hide another paper tiger - Jeff Sessions, whose too busy fighting marijuana use to care that the due process and equal protection are getting flushed down the toilet.

Nothing’s going to happen. The losers win, and the winners lose. Crime does pay, at least if you’re connected in the swamp


122 posted on 04/13/2018 12:30:59 PM PDT by confederatecarpetbag
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To: Col Frank Slade

I think I’ve read that there will be one more report which will be bigger. It would seem to follow that the first one is a taste and the real meat will be in the second one but we do live in strange times.


123 posted on 04/13/2018 12:31:12 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: bigbob; All
All this discussion of "lack of candor" got me to wondering if there's more to the term "lack of candor" than we know. Maybe it has specific meanings in the government. Sure enough -- "Lack of candor" is actually MUCH WORSE at the FBI than simply not telling the truth. For a good review of this, see The Atlantic, March 22, 2018, Why the FBI Fires People for 'Lack of Candor'. Here are some good sections:

According to former FBI officials, the obligation of bureau employees—agents or otherwise—to have candor in performance of their duties comes from the need for FBI officials to represent the federal government in legal proceedings, act as witnesses in trials, and manage informants. Under the FBI’s standard, candor is not simply telling the truth—it confers an obligation to disclose relevant information even if an investigator has not directly asked about it. The standards are strict—one former FBI official estimated 20 to 30 bureau employees were dismissed annually for matters of candor. In one case described in a 2012 FBI report, an employee was dismissed after she lied to investigators about her husband’s drug use; in another, an employee was fired after they misled investigators about properly disposing of evidence. Another agent lost his job after using his bureau car to transport his daughter to daycare, and then lied about it.

“If you have a candor violation, that is treated much more severely than other things that might be more serious, like a DUI,” said Clint Watts, a former FBI agent and a fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute. “You have to be able to back up your statements, and if you don’t have good candor, you can’t go jamming people up for lying to federal agents.”

Candor cases can drag on for months, they said, in part because they can turn on a difference in perception—whether an employee understood the question, or answered to the best of their knowledge, or simply failed to recall something—and often when someone is close to retirement, that person will simply be allowed to retire.

The key element of candor cases is that the standard is higher for FBI employees than for the typical government official. The bar for perjury for example, is extremely high and requires prosecutors to prove a defendant’s state of mind. That’s very difficult, which is why few public officials are ever prosecuted for it—even in criminal investigations, it’s typical to charge obstruction rather than perjury. But FBI officials can’t simply avoid lying under oath—even omitting the truth could get them fired.

It sounds more akin to the honor code at the nation's military academies.

124 posted on 04/13/2018 12:31:57 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

> Looks like the only penalty for McCabe is dismissal. It’s not even a misdomeaner.

> Lack of Candor Under Oath, Offense Code 2.6:

https://archive.org/stream/607400-fbi-employee-misconduct-quarterly-review/607400-fbi-employee-misconduct-quarterly-review_djvu.txt

Yeah. :-( They couldn’t get him on anything else, really???


125 posted on 04/13/2018 12:32:58 PM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: bigbob

“But note that this report is about “certain allegations” relating to McCabe. There could be more to come, we have no way of knowing...’

I didn’t read through it, so I don’t know about any “allegations” or even if he possibly violated prosecutable crimes.


126 posted on 04/13/2018 12:33:25 PM PDT by be-baw (still seeking...)
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To: proust

“SES”????


127 posted on 04/13/2018 12:34:37 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: 2banana
Lacking candor = lying under oath

FBI jargon.

128 posted on 04/13/2018 12:37:46 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Mozart tells you what it's like to be human. Bach tells you what it's like to be the universe)
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To: bigbob

The DOJ & it’s rank and file are 100 percent, within the margin of error, rabid lefties—100 percent hillary voters. 100 percent contributions to that treasonous murdering harpy.

What don’t you understand about that fact?


129 posted on 04/13/2018 12:38:39 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Jeff Sessions IS the insurance policy)
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To: Electric Graffiti

Isn’t the more important question, Why was he motivated to act in this way? Isn’t that the real crime and who was “in” with him on this?


130 posted on 04/13/2018 12:39:31 PM PDT by greenishness
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Yes. But apparently you can’t.


131 posted on 04/13/2018 12:39:50 PM PDT by LIConFem (I will no longer accept the things I cannot change. it's time to change the things I cannot accept.)
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To: P-Marlowe

But breaking FBI’s policy and breaking the US Code could be 2 different things.

On what would they criminally prosecute McCabe?


132 posted on 04/13/2018 12:40:05 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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To: bigbob

I have read about one third of the OIG report.

It sure would make it easier to read if the OIG named NAMES instead of using job titles of the co-conspirators.


133 posted on 04/13/2018 12:40:16 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: BOARn
how refreshing to find another that can see all things around them.

LOL! Well, I've been at this for 40 years. Just keeping track of how bad we are getting screwed by the deep state and the government takes up most of my time outside of work. A cognizant citizen does have time frivolities of sports hero worship. I could give a rats ass about pro and college sports of any type. Too many more important things to be involved in.

134 posted on 04/13/2018 12:40:53 PM PDT by suijuris
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To: bigbob

Bttt.

5.56mm


135 posted on 04/13/2018 12:41:46 PM PDT by M Kehoe (THIS SPACE FOR RENT)
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To: Ken H

If the wrong person/body was lied to, then it could get criminal. But I’m not sure they will go there.


136 posted on 04/13/2018 12:42:27 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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To: bigbob
"Lack of Kandor" is exactly how they tripped up Superman.

What goes around comes around...

137 posted on 04/13/2018 12:43:26 PM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: xzins

Lied during IG Horowitz interview .

BOOM


138 posted on 04/13/2018 12:43:55 PM PDT by Col Frank Slade
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To: bigbob

Until we see some one get cuffed and sent to Lewisburg or Atlanta, this means nothing. This is just a sop to the right..


139 posted on 04/13/2018 12:44:13 PM PDT by cardinal4 ("Sat stonefaced while the building burned..")
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To: Terry Mross
McCabe lacked candor, including under oath, on multiple occasions

You asked...

Is there a law against “lacking candor”?

Under oath? Yep.

140 posted on 04/13/2018 12:45:37 PM PDT by pgkdan (The Silent Majority STILL Stands With TRUMP!)
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