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'You are going to hell!' crowd erupts after vote to make it harder to skip vaccines [NewJersey]
NJ.com ^ | 04/05/2018 | Susan Livio

Posted on 04/06/2018 12:14:13 PM PDT by GIdget2004

Parents erupted in anger Thursday after state lawmakers advanced a bill that would make it harder for families in New Jersey to avoid getting their children shots based on religious grounds.

Moments after the state Assembly Health Committee at the Statehouse in Trenton approved the measure, dozens of people leapt to their feet shouting, "You are going to hell!" "Shame!" and "You Democrats destroy America!"

The outburst followed two hours of testimony from parents, grandparents and religious leaders, which ranged from indignant and pleading to tearful and angry.

It took 20 minutes for Chairman Herb Conaway, D-Burlington, also the bill's sponsor, to read the names of opponents who declined to testify.

Under the bill, families who avoid getting their children shots based on religious grounds would have to submit a notarized letter explaining how vaccinations violates their faith.

The opponents called the proposal burdensome, intrusive and discriminatory, and sharply questioned why the government had the right to judge their beliefs.

Some said they would feel compelled to home-school their children, to protect them from the potentially harmful side effects of vaccines, which many said they had seen first-hand.

(Excerpt) Read more at nj.com ...


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1 posted on 04/06/2018 12:14:13 PM PDT by GIdget2004
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To: GIdget2004

If one decides to home-school the kids, not having to vaccinate is one of the perks, but by far not the greatest one. Avoiding the indoctrination is far more valuable than avoiding the shots.


2 posted on 04/06/2018 12:18:47 PM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: GIdget2004

They could always move out of NJ and take their tax dollars with them.

I did.


3 posted on 04/06/2018 12:19:01 PM PDT by yobid (Trump/Pence - America's best chance)
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To: GIdget2004

Some insist upon going back to the days of 30% child mortality from diseases that have now been conquered.


4 posted on 04/06/2018 12:20:14 PM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: JudyinCanada

home schooling is the only way to go these days


5 posted on 04/06/2018 12:20:16 PM PDT by vooch (America First Drain the Swamp)
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To: GIdget2004

Antivax retardation.

Enjoy your Polio, Smacky McTardface.


6 posted on 04/06/2018 12:20:46 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: vooch

Heck, I did it 30 years ago. Nowadays, it’s the ONLY option, unless you can pay for a good private school, if you care about your kids.


7 posted on 04/06/2018 12:22:26 PM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: humblegunner

I did not receive my small pox vaccine even though the state said it was required to attend school. I was contra indicated for the vaccine due to medical reasons. Does that make me an Antivax retardation?

There are valid reasons for not wanting to receive a vaccine. The real question is ... who gets to decide what is “valid”, the parent or the state?


8 posted on 04/06/2018 12:27:10 PM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt)
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To: GIdget2004

It never ceases to amaze me how otherwise intelligent, and more often than not conservative people can buy into all the antivax quackery.


9 posted on 04/06/2018 12:34:31 PM PDT by NRx (A man of integrity passes his father's civilization to his son, without selling it off to strangers.)
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To: taxcontrol

you cant reason with these people. they say they are conservative yet cant somehow handle other people thinking differently about a serious medical subject and having reservations for things made from aborted fetal cells, more and more, as alternative choices have disappeared.

They are acting like totalitarian liberals and their responses are blatant hatred at those that disagree with them. Even though they are free to get as many vaccines as they want for themselves and their kids. They hate the people who don’t want that, and their comments show it. They are as civil as the proaborts are. Its like their religion.


10 posted on 04/06/2018 12:37:18 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: NRx

“It never ceases to amaze me how otherwise intelligent, and more often than not conservative people can buy into all the antivax quackery.

Must be the suffering and the bodies... some otherwise intelligent people just can’t handle the emotional part of watching their kids forever changed or killed. Weaklings!

/s


11 posted on 04/06/2018 12:37:41 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Barron Trump, time-traveling back from the future, to help his dad fight the deep state.)
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To: NRx

And it never ceases to amaze me how there is always somebody who will trust the government over their own Lying Eyes.


12 posted on 04/06/2018 12:39:02 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: taxcontrol

For a long time the Amish were granted a religious exemption from vaccination requirements. And then a Polio epidemic swept through several of their communities a few years back. Small Pox was one of the most terrifying, and hyper contagious, diseases in the history of mankind. It was eradicated in no small part thanks to massive and usually compulsory vaccinations.


13 posted on 04/06/2018 12:39:09 PM PDT by NRx (A man of integrity passes his father's civilization to his son, without selling it off to strangers.)
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To: GIdget2004

Get vaccinated! There is not commonsense reason not to. People skipping them are exposing others and facilitating the re-introduction of diseases we’ve previously eliminated in the US. Besides, what parent would want to know and live with their kid or someone else being harmed or dying because the refused a vaccine. And I do not know of any religion that bans them.


14 posted on 04/06/2018 12:39:39 PM PDT by Reno89519 (If Trump can't deliver and folds like a typical Republican, maybe he should be impeached.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

The irony is that I am very pro-vaccine. Because of my job and global travel, I have had just about every vaccine except for Japanese Encephalitis (haven’t been to back woods Brazil). But that has always been my CHOICE. I decided that I would get the vaccines, not the government.

And that is what chaps my hide with these Mandatory Nanny types.


15 posted on 04/06/2018 12:41:54 PM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt)
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To: humblegunner

I grew up in Boston in the 30s and 40s-——when I was in school the only vaccine available was smallpox,which was mandatory.

My family was quarantined in 1944 because my brother had scarlet fever———sign posted on the front door for all to see.

Fear of polio every single summer.

I can’t believe that people would want to go back to that.

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16 posted on 04/06/2018 12:51:05 PM PDT by Mears
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To: GIdget2004

My understanding was that the state could not mandate vaccines bc then they would be liable for problems caused. We homeschooled, tho, and the year our son was in school, I signed a waiver.


17 posted on 04/06/2018 12:53:26 PM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: taxcontrol

There are absolutely valid reasons for avoiding the vaccines, or picking and choosing your timetable, or picking and choosing your vaxes. Doesn’t make one a tin-hat person to challenge the state.


18 posted on 04/06/2018 12:54:37 PM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: taxcontrol

Some people just enjoy telling other people what to do. Of course we all want our ideas to prevail. It’s only when it’s done at the point of a government-wielded gun that I object.


19 posted on 04/06/2018 12:55:08 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: GIdget2004

MANDATORY STABBING

Who would live in NJ?

Mandatory vaccine stabbings destroy your internal organs.

Read the insert!


20 posted on 04/06/2018 12:59:55 PM PDT by TheNext
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