Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Attorney General Beshear vows to sue over pension reform bill
Spectrum News ^ | 3/30/2018 | Michon Lindstrom

Posted on 03/31/2018 10:08:36 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat

FRANKFORT- Attorney General Andy Beshear, D-Kentucky, says he will sue if Governor Bevin signs the newly passed pension reform bill.

Republican members of the General Assembly passed a surprise pension bill Thursday. Senate Bill 151 , originally a bill dealing with wastewater, served as the vehicle for a revised version of Senate Bill 1. Beshear took to Twitter to announce his intentions to sue over the rushed bill.

Beshear took issue with the manner in which the majority party rushed the bill through committee.

“They didn’t allow any public comment or testimony, they refused to hear from you. They plopped a 291 page bill in front of legislators and made them vote on it without reading it. And they didn’t even have the required actuarial analysis, which would tell you and me if it would even save a dime.” he said.

Beshear went on to say that SB 151 violates the inviolable contract in just about every way the previous bills did.

“If and when the governor signs that bill into law, your Attorney General’s office will follow suit seeking to overturn as much if not all of this terrible bill as we can.” he said.

Attorney General Beshear is not the only statewide official who is speaking out against the pension reform bill. Secretary of State Alison Lundergan Grimes, D-Kentucky, has also been vocal about the measure. In a series of tweets, she expressed her disgust with the process, saying in one tweet, “Locking people out of committee, processing bills without the actuarial analysis and tacking legislation onto a sewage bill STINKS! This is not what democracy looks like.”

(Excerpt) Read more at mycn2.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: andybeshear; pensions

1 posted on 03/31/2018 10:08:36 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Republican Wildcat

So, does this mean that he’ll initiate a multi-state lawsuit against the Omnibus that was just signed by the President and passed in both Houses. And wasn’t read by any of them. Generally speaking, the morons in DC make decisions that force the taxpayers to fund crap they know nothing about or pass the costs onto the states, anyway.


2 posted on 03/31/2018 10:13:25 AM PDT by qaz123
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Republican Wildcat

“They plopped a 291 page bill in front of legislators and made them vote on it without reading it. “

Where have we seen that before. Hmmmm.


3 posted on 03/31/2018 10:15:59 AM PDT by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dljordan

Gotta pass it before you can know what’s in it, dude.


4 posted on 03/31/2018 10:19:24 AM PDT by shelterguy (Bigdeal)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Republican Wildcat

And the response from the Governor or Legislature in Court should go something like this:

Your Honor,

We CONFESS!! Here are all the documents from the last 30 years demonstrating a conspiracy to defraud the Taxpayers on behalf of the Unions and a listing of all the Bribe money accepted by the Public Servants that negotiated these fraudulent contracts. As you see every last public servant involved in these mathematically impossible contracts did conspire and collude as well as accept Millions of Dollars in Bribe Money by the very people they were negotiating against, supposedly on the Taxpayers behalf, as you clearly see, the Taxpayers did NOT have a seat at the table, and we hereby Motion to Declare All of these COntracts Void due to FRAUD!!!

Do this in Federal Court and Watch the SH&T hit the Fan.


5 posted on 03/31/2018 10:36:29 AM PDT by eyeamok (Tolerance: The virtue of having a belief in Nothing!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Republican Wildcat
Ah,yes...state pension systems.You've gotta love 'em.In my state (Massachusetts) we have a guy name Billy Bulger who's collecting a state pension after years of "public service".His main claim to fame (apart from having basically run this state for decades) is that he's the kid bother of "Whitey" Bulger,formerly of the FBI's Ten Most Wanted and now a "guest" of the United States Bureau of Prisons.

Billy's also known (in Massachusetts at least) for having taken the 5th several dozen times when giving sworn testiony before a Congressional Committee (and also having said "I can't recall" several dozen other times) as well as drawing a $250,000/yr Massachusetts state pension,courtesy of the few people in this state who actually work for a living and pay taxes.

6 posted on 03/31/2018 10:37:14 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (You Say "White Privilege"...I Say "Protestant Work Ethic")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Republican Wildcat

You have to pass the bill to find out whats in it.

Guess who set that precedent.


7 posted on 03/31/2018 11:16:00 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Republican Wildcat

gee we said this i 2009 when nanzi pelosi did the same thing with obamacare.


8 posted on 03/31/2018 11:16:39 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Republican Wildcat
“They didn’t allow any public comment or testimony, they refused to hear from you. They plopped a 291 page bill in front of legislators and made them vote on it without reading it. And they didn’t even have the required actuarial analysis, which would tell you and me if it would even save a dime.” he said.

Wow.
Looks like California and the Feds are not the only dysfunctional confused, chaotic entities to be paralyzed by ignorance of their own laws, or by indifference.

This can't end well...

9 posted on 03/31/2018 11:31:07 AM PDT by publius911 (Declaration: MSM, I am so over watching or listening to bald perverts, thugs and sluts)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Republican Wildcat

Pensions will be the destruction of this Country. Every State should bite the bullet, pay off the liabilities from a one time tax increase, and change to a 401K style pension. ENOUGH. It’s so 1950.


10 posted on 03/31/2018 11:41:17 AM PDT by Hildy (There)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dljordan
“They plopped a 291 page bill in front of legislators and made them vote on it without reading it. “
Where have we seen that before. Hmmmm.

Looks like a nationwide universal political blown fuse.

Obamadork set an unConstitutional precedent... nobody stopped him... now every elected and appointed criminal wants "in" on the act.

NICE LEGACY, BARACK MUHAMAD HUSSEIN!!

11 posted on 03/31/2018 11:44:55 AM PDT by publius911 (Declaration: MSM, I am so over watching or listening to bald perverts, thugs and sluts)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Gay State Conservative
His main claim to fame (apart from having basically run this state for decades) is that he's the kid bother of "Whitey" Bulger,formerly of the FBI's Ten Most Wanted and now a "guest" of the United States Bureau of Prisons.

Wait.

He's collecting a State pension while in jail?

WTF??

12 posted on 03/31/2018 11:49:23 AM PDT by publius911 (Declaration: MSM, I am so over watching or listening to bald perverts, thugs and sluts)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Hildy

Essentially the idiot GOP passed a bill that does little to fix the pension the Democrats, especially the AG Breashear’s daddy as governor stole and spent. They are taking a crap load of heat for doing nothing. If you’re going to receive a sh@t storm of political abuse at least you should have something right to show for it.

The moronic teachers are acting like it’s the end of humanity because the bill they did pass effects no retired teachers or 99% of those in the system currently, only new hires who are not guaranteed a public pension and gasp, might have to rely on a 401 retirement system, oh the horror. Welcome to the real world snowflake mentors!


13 posted on 03/31/2018 11:56:03 AM PDT by sarge83
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: sarge83

I know, I tried to change the Paid Time Off benefits of our County workers which were so ridiculous, amounting to almost seven weeks the first year. You read that correctly. I was informed by our County Attorney that I should be prepared for a class action lawsuit. So I pushed just for new hires and won. NOW the issue is coming back. I have learned it’s never enough. I tell people now if the are unhappy with their job go get a new one.


14 posted on 03/31/2018 12:00:07 PM PDT by Hildy (There)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Republican Wildcat

Little Andy Beshear, the son of former democratic Gov. Steve Beshear, uses his position of Attorney General to lead the resistance to anything that republicans, especially Gov. Matt Bevin, try to accomplish. Generally speaking, the people of Kentucky are unwittingly paying Andy Beshear to be a full-time filer of lawsuits intended to thwart Gov. Bevin’s agenda.


15 posted on 03/31/2018 12:33:14 PM PDT by lakecumberlandvet (Appeasement never works.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Republican Wildcat

“Beshear went on to say that SB 151 violates the inviolable contract in just about every way the previous bills did.”

There’s no such thing as an inviolable contract when it comes to legislatures. A future legislature can unwind, ignore and cancel any contract passed by a previous legislature. Legislatures are sovereign. There’s no such thing as a plenary legislature that can dictate to a future legislature what it must do.


16 posted on 03/31/2018 3:03:26 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: publius911
Wait.He's collecting a State pension while in jail? WTF?

No,I worded my post poorly.Whitey's in Federal prison for having killed God knows how many...and other stuff.His kid brother Billy is collecting a Massachusetts state pension of $250K/yr when he,too,should be in prison but has somehow avoided it.

If,by chance,you're curious read a book called "The Brothers Bulger" by Boston talk show host and columnist Howie Carr.Great stuff....which includes the tale of a Boston FBI agent who basically joined Whitey's crew and wound up doing 40 years for murder.

Also,the film "Black Mass" is about the Bulgers...but it whitewashes Billy...probably in order to avoid a libel lawsuit.

17 posted on 03/31/2018 3:30:38 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (You Say "White Privilege"...I Say "Protestant Work Ethic")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson