[SecAmndmt]

By their governments.

Do you think all of us should be punished for 60,000,000 dead babies?

[Osage Orange]

Where are you...actually coming from?

[BTerclinger]

"Do you think all of us should be punished for 60,000,000 dead babies?"

Weren't we?

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[JME_FAN]

By the doctrine of “just war” - yes.

A citizenry is ultimately responsible for the actions of its government.

[Susan360]

Well, yes. The Jews in Babylon, Israel under David, the Jews in Egypt are examples of the innocent being punished along with the guilty. That said, scripture states There is none righteous, and I know my heart certainly falls into that category.

I believe God’s mercy and forbearance are the only thing keeping this nation from complete destruction...read 2 Peter 3:9-10.

[chuckles]

If you read Romans 1:32, a list of sins was just read off and verse 32 says those that approve of such things are as guilty as those that do them. Leviticus 18:22-30 speaks of sodomy. God threw the Canaanites out because of it to give the land to the Hebrews, then said if they approved of sodomy, God would throw them out also. The judgement of the "nations" is spoken of as sheep and goats. When you read about goats, God is judging a nation, not individual people. Wheat and Tares refers to individuals. Whole nations have been judged many times in history.

One of the biggest problems we have today is the people voting Democrat for one reason or another and not realizing they are voting for abortion, gay marriage, banning prayer, God removed from the culture, ect. A few years back, God was voted out of the Democrat party at the convention. The speaker kept calling for vote after vote and it kept coming out that God was banned from their convention. Finally, the announcer called for a voice vote and declared that God was still supported in the Democrat party. You can't ban prayer in school and support sodomy and baby murder, and claim Christ. He will say "I never knew you" when you are face to face. You are judged by what you do, not what you say. Calling yourself a Christian is waaaay different than following His teachings. I'm not preaching works for salvation, but Jesus said if you are His, you will DO my commandments.

A good case could be made to overthrow the government to stop abortion and sodomy just for self protection. Our country was founded by Christians with guns because the king was not acting Godly. 9-11 and the finacial crash could be just the warning shot God gives before the "Big One". How far did God let Sodom go before He destroyed them?